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Snooze on the Spurs, and you lose

Posted: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:36 PM

When the Spurs finish off the Jazz and arrive in the NBA Finals, you’re going to see any number of columns whose 800-odd words can be reduced to one: “boring.”

And if Detroit comes out of the East, you’ll also read about how awful it’s going to be for the ratings, because, as everyone knows, the quality of the ratings is more important than the quality of the basketball.

This is neither true nor fair. Teams get to the finals because they’ve proved on the court that they’re the best. And only someone who believes style is more important than substance – I think that covers much of America – would say that’s boring.

Besides, the Spurs aren’t boring. Tony Parker is an exciting point guard. Plus, whenever he’s in the game we get to look at his sweetie, Eva Longoria, cheering him on. And Manu Ginobili is a slashing, dashing thrill show.

But, someone will say, what about Tim Duncan? He may be a great player, but he’s duller than a Penn State football uniform. No strutting. No rim-hanging. No finger pointing. No reverse slams. Where’s the fun in that?

It’s pathetic that we can say things like that about one of the greatest players the game has ever seen. It’s equally sad that we criticize teams for being everything we say we want them to be – reasonably well-behaved, respectful of the game, preferring team play to individual glory.

You can say the same things about Detroit: they win because they are a team, not a bunch of flashy individuals. If Cleveland beats the Pistons, everyone will get excited – as they should – about LeBron James getting to the finals. But if they don’t, it will be a victory for team over individual. We should applaud rather than yawn.

But let’s get back to Duncan. Better yet, get yourself over to to this column by Adrian Wojnarowski. (Just call him “Woj.” It’s a lot easier, and it’s what he answers to.) Duncan, says Woj, is the league’s MVP. No one else need apply. But he’s so consistently great in such an unassuming way he never gets the credit he deserves.

Duncan is 31 and has three rings. No other NBA team has won more titles over the past ten years than the Spurs. Since 1996, the Bulls have three, the Lakers have three and the Spurs have three. This year, the Spurs will almost certainly make it four.

That is a dynasty. And when you look at what the Spurs have done, it’s even more remarkable than what the Lakers and the Bulls did. Both of those teams won their championships consecutively. The Bulls have only now returned to competitiveness – it took nearly a decade to get over Michael Jordan’s departure. The Lakers have struggled ever since Shaq left.

But the Spurs are consistently excellent. Their titles were spread over seven years. If they win this year, it will be four in nine years. To win, fall back a little, come back and win again, then repeat the process is hard to do. And it means an organization is doing all the right things at all levels – drafting, trading, signing free agents, coaching.

So they’re not Show Time. Big deal. If you want to see one person put on a clinic on how to play his position just about every single game, just watch Duncan. He does everything right. Positioning. Footwork. Blocking out. Setting picks. Passing out of the double-team. He’s not great on free throws until it gets to the end of a tight game. Then it seems he can’t miss.

The Spurs are like the old New York Giants of 1986-1990 were in the NFL and like the Devils have been in the NHL. They don’t do flash. They do the game and the team thing. They just win.

And winning isn’t boring. So the ratings are down? Big deal. The NBA will survive. And if you tune in for a bit, you may just find you’re seeing basketball played the way you always say you wish people would play it. The team way.

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Just because a team is very good does not make them exciting. In fact, being a good team does not have all that much to do with being exciting. I do not see why you seem to think that "boring" and "good" cannot co-exist. In other words, a team can be good and very boring at the same time. Watching a clinic is just not exciting. I think fans find personalities, athletic plays and controversies exciting- and that's just the way it is. Are you honestly saying that setting perfect picks is exciting to the average fan or are you totally detached from your audience? I don't understand why making the finals makes a team exciting- the Bears were boring and made the super bowl. The Cardinals won the world series and they were boring. Also, people do not have a problem with watching the team game- that is why the Suns are so popular and it is the reason why people loved the Kings of the late 90s. In fact, I think it is precisely the ball movement and offensive diversity that made these among the most popular in recent years.
I'm extremely dismayed at the general tone of basketball fans when it comes to the Spurs. Having long being a Spurs fan, it was further validated by the selection of Tim Duncan. He and the Spurs organization are a class act and should be seen as ambassadors for the NBA. They are the ideal example of substance versus style. It is refreshing to see a team rewarded for teamwork, hardwork and unselfishness. Duncan and Popovich's personality radiates to the remainder of the organization. Best of luck .
Bravissimo! The team of my childhood was the Willis Reed Knicks. Now as a 20 year San Antonian I am personally proud of the team win or lose. I would also like to add to your on target comments that the Spurs even know how to lose with CLASS. The Derek Fisher .4 shot 3 years ago and the uncalled foul on Duncan in the last seconds last season could have led to 5 in a row by now. It is very unique to live in a town that when the Spurs are in the playoffs the clerks in supermarkets all wear Spurs gear. Jerry Geraci T
Not just boring, but snoozeville, better than a Valium and wine cocktail boring. A Pistons-Spurs final should somehow be bottled and sold as a new non-narcotic sleep aid. Not that many other combinations of finals teams would have made much difference. The NBA is at a low, and ratings (especially in non-NBA cities) probably reflect this. I would check, but i have lost all interest. Now...that NHL.....we have had great playoff series thus far, and the finals are shaping up to be wonderful. Too bad NBC is involved, as so few people get to see the sport anyway.
Mike, While Duncan is the most fundamentally sound big man in the game, the playoff system benefits him and the Spurs. He is far better in the half court tha in the open court and with all the additional TV time outs the pace of play is much more in the half court. He has also played in an era with less dominant big men especially in the last 3 years when Shaq has been on the decline. Had he played in the era of Ewing, Hakeem, Parrish and other top notch 7 footers he would be less dominant. If a guy 6'9" or so must guard him they have little chance. While he claims he is a power forward that is really not the case and is a center. He really has no solid facing the hoop shot, and can't shoot free throws. Most of his damage is with his back to the basket. No one should ever sell him short as he has maximized his abilities and Popovitch's system is just right for him. The Spurs are boring other than Parker and have a couple of cheap shot artists which the league keeps ignoring because of their reputation and championships. Stern and the refs have not continued to enforce the league's new less contact rules as they did during the regular season. Thus we are still seeing the ridiculous low scring and poor shooting games the owners were trying to avoid. I suspect the rartings will fall agains as fans want to see players actually shoot more than 40% and watch the ball go in the basket. It's not Duncan that makes the game boring, it's David Stern and his refs not enforcing the rules that the owners implemented to make the game more exciting. Sooner or later as the revenues fall the owners will wake up and retire both Stern and his large group of 60 plus year old officials who cointinue to officiate playoff games and if we were in the early '90's. All those great regulaer season shootouts and overtime game are just a distant memory for most fans now!
Damn Skippy! I used to hate the Spurs. I'm originally from Houston and left about the same time Olajuwon did. I moved to San Antonio just as David and Avery were on their way out! That's when the Spurs were boring! Now it's great basketball! The Spurs, when they are on, put on a clinic. Coach Pop doesn't get the credit either. I predict we sweep the Jazz and take Detriot out in 5! And Yeah, Eva is fun to look at too!
You said it perfectly. Go Spurs!
Last year, although the Spurs were edged out by Dallas on a boneheaded Ginobili foul against Nowitski, Duncan outplayed everyone in the playoffs. He was killing every team he played against. But the story of 2006 was the play of Dwayne Wade in the finals. Wade played well, but not as well as Duncan.
It is nice to see a reporter finally giving the Spurs their due!
I don't care what you say about "team" sport; I still miss Jordan. He willed his team to victory, and that's more American than anything that you've described.
I watch sports as the game of life, gleaning from it principles of success in business, my relationships, and other areas of my life. Therefore, I'm thrilled to see true teams like the Spurs and the Pistons in the NBA spotlight. For years now, the Spurs in particular have reflected the kind of character, consistency, constancy of purpose, cooperative effort, and commitment to excellence needed to remain at the top of one's game regardless of the field of endeavor. Flash or no flash -- and you're right that they've got some! -- they're just what the NBA and its audience need. They may not Show Time, but all of us should still be grateful that they show us the way each time they take the floor.
YEA! Finally, someone that recognizes the Spurs, Tim and Basketball the way it should be. Every year, the Spurs have theme in their official Spurs site and it always surrounds a "team" theme. This year its: Team Is Everything. When they last won their championship, it was: One Team, One Goal (and when they won: Mission Accomplished) --- How awesome is that. Thank you for recognizing the Spurs for their talent as a team and as individuals; and, for the condoning the "T" for Team in BaskeTball.
I love this article! It is well written and you present many good points that anyone who claims to be a real basketball fan should appreciate. Even if someone isn't a Spurs fan, they should be able to respect the fact that they're a great team, and play with respect to the game. To me, it's much more entertaining than watching a bunch of thugs throw hissy fits and play for their own glory. GO SPURS GO!
In 2001, I no longer followed the NBA because I was tired of watching groups of guys that were flash and loud individuals rather than a team. Then I spent a year as part of my duty with the US government in San Antonio. After reading about the spurs on and off the court and seeing television interviews with players like Tim Duncan, Tony and Manu I came back to the game and bought tickets to watch the Spurs. I loved the way they play the game as a team and the way they behaved on and off the court. Outside of the US they are seen as true ambassadors of the NBA reflecting how the game is meant to be played. I look forward to them winning the championship this year and hope the american public will watch and appreciate how they play the game.
I am a huge Spurs fan and I just watched the replay of Game 2 of the Conference Finals in '99 when they beat Portland on Elliot's 3. It is amazing to me to see them almost 10 years later still playing the same style of basketball and still winning; note to other teams play team defense and offense and you win...it really works.
Amen! Preach it, Mike! That is why a 50+ lady from Kerrville, TX loves the Spurs. True professionals, all the way. Hey, advertisers - don't forget, we lady boomers do most of the purchasing too! Just love seeing a true teamwork, unselfish play, and total class team win!
Good article. American say they want their players to be well behaved. But when a sqeaky clean team like the Spurs comply, they are boring. The Spurs even compliment the other team after the butt whipping!!! No hip-hop hanger ons, no slama jamma in yo face dunks,no trash talkers, just straight up victory deliveries!! Its sad because this is the kind of basketball young kids should be learning..if they want to become winners. Again Excellent article.
i was thinking the same thing.
The Utah Jazz were only down 3 points in both games at the end of 1. They did fall apart in the second quarters, but which team won the socond half in both games, in San Antonio? The Jazz did. The Spurs might be the new dynasty, but calling the Jazz boring is hardly fair. The Jazz not only won their division, they also came back from 0-2 to beat the Rockets. They handled the Warriors pretty decisively, and are now at least the forth best team in the league this year. Considering they only won 26 games two years ago, and are now in the conference finals, I think they are far from being called boring.
It's refreshing to come across a column such as this, by a writer who appears to TRULY APPRECIATE the concept of "team." Yes, I'm a Spurs fan and, honestly appreciate the fundamental basketball the Spurs play, without all of the style points some players seem to need. Fundamental, rock-solid basketball by a true group of teammates. It seems to be working. Thanks for a thoughtful, well-written piece.
Why is what the Spurs of done more remarkable then the Bulls? Yes, the Spurs will probably win 4 titles in 9 years but, the Bulls won 6 titles in 8 years. To me the Bulls dynasty is still more impressive. Why don't we wait and see what happens the rest of Duncan's career AND after he retires before putting the Spurs above the Bulls.
Mike, Thank you for giving The Spurs, and especially Tim Duncan, the credit they deserve. They are consistently overlooked and derided for being "boring." Unfortunately I don't think that your article will sway public opinion, but hopefully it'll plant a few seeds.
Here here! I've been a Spurs fan since the mid 90's before they were winners. As fans we've had to put up with the lack of respect felt around the United States toward a team that doesn't strut or act proud. We have had the quiet pride in knowing we have a fantastic team and now have they pleasure of sharing that understanding with the rest of the fans. It's time the Spurs become respected enough to be called "America's Team", a title that is shared by the Dallas Cowboy's for good reason. This is the kind of sports we should all like to see. Thank you for your article!
Great story! Its all about the TEAM!
I LOVE the Spurs. They are a great team with great players. They never get the credit they deserve because they are a bunch of good guys. You don't see thier names in the police blotters. Tim Duncan is NOT boring. I think he is just private. Some other NBA players could learn from him!
Thank you Mike for this article on the Spurs. Yep, you guessed it, I am a die to the end for my Spurs. Being a native Texan and living in San Antonio, it is just fitting that we look foward to articles about the Spurs. Oddly enough, you are right. We don't do drugs, get arrested, throw things at the fans, cuss, shoot the finger, have public divorce scandles, drive intoxicated and all the other stupp that makes news for the NBA. Long after this season is gone, we will be as we always are. Steady as she goes. You have a good day.
I'm glad someone can actually say it like it is. In this day of drugs & thugs dominating our sports headlines, it SHOULD be refreshing that we can actually watch a team rise through the ranks and shine based on selfless team play and without shameless self promotion. Tim Duncan is the epitome of 'sports' class, and has the luxury of co-starring with other class acts
While I've been a fan of the Spurs in years past, I think this article is coming a little late. I think this year is tainted because of the suspensions in round two, and they aren't as classy as a few years ago. The elbow throwing, groin kneeing, and body checking has me checking out on this team. I'm one basketball fan who's not going to watch or cheer for a bunch of thugs.
Two great teams and two great coaches. By the way, the only technical foul through game 3 was by the Spurs. Bowen would look good in a Warriors uniform...ya think? WIth this dog fight, it is a Great time to be a fan of the game. Win or lose, Utah and the Spurs are both real basketball.
Ahhh!!! Old school team basketball is alive and well in San Antonio and Detroit. As a longtime (ago) Celtic's fan, I miss that kind of performance from a group of dedicated players. As for you superstar player championship nut jobs, just remember that Jordan didn't win any championships until he had a team around him. Guys like Paxton, Kerr and others made some pretty serious game winning shots for the Bull's championship runs.
You are right! The Spurs are the class of the league, especially the Big Three. My only question is that while David had Tim coming up, where is Tim's "David". Without a dominant center, the Spurs are good, but not a championship team.
Spurs "classy"? Bowen hasn't commited more than a few questionable "hard" fouls this postseason? Cheap shot Bob on Nash when the game is over? After numerous OBVIOUS no-calls that the Spurs get away with, they throw a tantrum when the other team gets a legitimate call? The Spurs are one of the few teams I believe there is a small margin of bias when it comes to officiating.
True fans who understand the game of basketball can truely enjoy the Spurs! They do have people who get the job done from the front office down to the trainers. Don't forget, the spurs the last couple of years had a big turnover in players but by keeping the nucleus and adding playerd (not the high profile high salary stars), they were able to get these championships by team play, coaching, and committment. How can anyone say they are boring? This is how we want our kids to play....disciplined!! GO SPURS GO!!
I usually only watch the NBA come playoff time and then only sparingly. I have always been baffled by the lack of attention the Spurs get. Of course, it is because they carry themselves with dignity and play for the team. But, the term "boring" only comes from fans who's teams lose to them. Watching them methodically toy with an opponent - the extra passes, the good shooting, the hustle, has always been extremely fun to watch. And I like guys who have class. It's funny that they have always been called "boring", "choir boys", "goodie-two-shoes", and now, the pouting suns fans have tried to label them "dirty". It just won't ever fly.
I live in Phoenix but am a Spurs Fan. I cannot believe the excuses and all around bad sportsmanship that has been displayed here. From the media to the fans (who are especially bad). They simply cannot grasp what a team is, or what it takes to win. To Phoenix fans the Spurs are the "evil ones" who took their rightful crown away. As if they were entitled to it just because of he regular season record. Oh Brother! When the Suns learn how to play for the playoffs and build and shape their bench instead of simply win games with the five starters, then and only then will they win the only thing that matters....a Finals Championship. They can learn a thing or two...three if you count the trophies, from the Spurs, instead of constantly trying to by unlike them.
Yeah, the Spurs are boring, but they're great. Most things in San Antonio are like that. Where else could a potential NBA dynasty be such a well-kept secret?
Mike, I couldn't agree more. Sometimes when I hear or read about what others have to say about the Spurs, I can't help but feel it's like listening to bitter, single people tear away at happily married couples (and I can say that cos I'm a bitter single person ;-)). They're jealous and it hurts their eyes to see what they don't have. GO SPURS GO!!!!
Many fans don't seem to understand the league owners have changed the the rules to "less contact" in order to facilitate scoring and opening up the game more. Those new rules were being somewhat enforced during the regular season. Since the playoffs have started Mr.Stern, who I believe should and will get his walking papers this summer, and his refs have decided to ignore the rules the owners passed. The game can be played at different contact levels to make the ball go in the hoop more and facilitate scoring. That's what the owners and some fans wanted. Other than last nights Pistons/ Cavs game there haven't been too many close eciting games. Even last night neither team shot over 45% and the score was 91 all at the end of regulation. Defensr is great but fans need enough scoring to keep interested. (Look what happen ed to the NHL) The great overtime and high scoring regular season games are just a distant memory. The playoff games while not as exciting don't have as much playoff feel to them as some regular season games other than a few. Go back and watch some reruns of playoff games of the 80's where there was plenty off excitement and scoring and it was great basketball. That's what the owners are trying to create again. Stern and his henchman are working at recreating playoff games of the early 90's. We will watch and see if Stern keeps his job.
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