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Blame Giants owners, not Tiki

Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:24 AM

Tiki Barber has taken a lot of criticism for the way he went about his retirement last year and for his criticism of his head coach, Tom Coughlin. He’s going to take some more when his book “Tiki: My Life in the Game and Beyond” hits the shelves.

 

He doesn’t deserve it. The fault for all the disappointing years the Giants have had since Bill Parcells left 15 years ago isn’t Tiki’s fault; it’s ownership’s.

 

According to excerpts published by The New York Daily News, Barber says he’d still be playing for the Giants if Coughlin had been replaced after the season. It’s news that’s going to be a major disruption in the Giants’ locker room as reporters ask his former teammates about their coach.

 

It’s going to be an awful position in which to be because a lot of the players agree with Tiki; they have as much affection for Coughlin as they do for jock itch. Maybe less – at least you can get rid of jock itch with a topical ointment, but Coughlin isn’t going away.

 

But they can’t say that because they’re football players and as such they’re expected to circle the wagons and say Coughlin’s their coach and they’ll follow him anywhere, even to a losing season.

 

Coughlin is a martinet who is trying to run a 2K7 team under 1950 rules. During the games, he skitters up and down the sidelines like a slimmed-down Mrs. Doubtfire, red-faced and expending his energies on berating the officials instead of running his team.

 

The Giants pretty much quit on him last season. And yet he kept his job because Tiki gained more than 200 yards in a season-ending win over the Redskins that allowed Big Blue to squeeze into the playoffs, where they lost in the first round.

 

This is mentioned in Tiki’s book. Prominently.

 

In a way, it’s Barber’s fault. He’s a smart man, a former high-school valedictorian who had the personality, presence and intelligence to get a job with NBC News and Sunday Night Football after he retired. But he wasn’t smart enough as a kid to become a great basketball player instead of a football player.

 

If he’d become as good in the NBA as he was in the NFL, he could have gotten his coach fired in no time at all, the same way Magic Johnson once did and Kobe Bryant did. In basketball, if the players hate the coach, the coach is gone. In football, it’s the other way around.

 

It shouldn’t be. It’s fruitless to argue about the obligation of professionals to follow the coach’s orders. If they don’t play for the guy, the only way to change things is to get a new coach. You can’t give 53 guys attitude transplants.

 

But the Giants have been exceptionally inept in hiring coaches. They tabbed Ray Handley to replace Parcells despite warnings that Handley, a good X’s and O’s guy with the personality of a rice cake, would be a disaster, which is what he was. Then they stuck with Handley far beyond when it was obvious he had to go, which was after two or three games.

 

Jim Fassel was a popular guy with the players and the media, a truly nice guy who worked his butt off and got the team to a Super Bowl. He stayed until it became obvious he lacked whatever it is that separates good coaches from great coaches.

 

After the 2003 season, the Giants fired Fassel. The team had a golden opportunity to hire a young coach with new ideas and the ability to relate to today’s players, the kind of coach Parcells had been when the team plucked him out of obscurity in 1983.

 

Instead, they hired Coughlin, who had already failed in one job and has done nothing notable in this one. The Giants could have dumped him after last year, when he started 6-2 and finished 2-6, but management stood by his man, even if he’s hated by his players.

 

That’s when Tiki left, and who can blame him? He’d made his money, gone as far as he could in his profession, and was working for a guy who sucked all the joy out of the game Barber had loved. When you hate going to work every day and you have enough in the bank to tide you over, it’s time to find a new line of work.

 

He’s right. The Giants blew it with Coughlin just as they did with Handley. If Tiki’s a distraction, it’s not his fault, it’s theirs.

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Incase you forgot, Tiki has already chosen to retire during the season and not once Coughlin's future with the team was decided. His own teammates have spoken out about the disloyality they felt when Tiki did this, and Barber isn't helping his case by trashing members of the team after he has left.

In the end, I'd rather have a coach who is an old school jerk, than a team captain who is a bona-fided backstabber.
I swear this season is a total bust. As a life long Giants fan I have never approached a season with such disdain. Tiki is right Coughlin is terrible. I am convinced that the Giants resigned him for one more year without consulting the incoming GM Resse. I predict a mid season firing of Coughlin. The Giants are set up for failure this year with an unexperienced offensive line. I will watch this year, but its going to be with my hands close to my eyes.
This has to be the most pathetic piece of writting ever... Who the hell do you think you are old man.. TIVI Barber is a selfish loser who half the team never liked even before Tom was here. He made last season all about himself and it was Tom who fixed his fumbling issue. Tivi was on his way out of the league before Tom fixed his fumbling issues... He is just trying to kick start his media career by bashing his former team and players. he had no class by stating that Eli's leadership skills are comical.. that was classless and I hope the Giants organization never lets that idiot back into the stadium. Know your facts old man before you write nonsense like this
Tiki should just shut up.  What a way to tarnish his great legacy as a giant, by mouthing off when he's no longer on the team.  Coughlin was the man who made him into a superstar by teaching him not to fumble.  This is a pretty pathetic piece of journalism btw.
I completely agree with the assessment of Coughlin. You can make people do things for you, but not believe in you - and you have to execute both those things well do be a good coach in pro sports anywhere. Especially with so many prima-donnas in modern pro sports.
You're way off the mark! He was paid very well to play...and not to fumble. Talking about distractions in the locker room, what about last year when calls it quits (and more than once it looked like he had quit!)durning the middle of the season! Every time Tiki opens his mouth lately he comes off as a spoiled, whinny overpaid jock. Giants are better off with him!
It might help your argument if you explain how a team that quit on its coach somehow managed to win its way into the playoffs.
You know what, even if Coughlin is the worst boss ever, he is still your boss and as a player you have to find a way to work with people. You are not going to be 100% compatible with everyone you work with, so you have to accept the fact and try your best to work with people. This is also a two-way street, so Coughlin isn't out of the door on this one, he deserves equal blame.

Obviously I don't know how bad this went in terms of a relationship between Barber and Coughlin, but I am not going to give either the benefit of the doubt. Last time I checked it still takes two to tango.

I am a Giant fan, and I might not want to see Coughlin coaching, but I have no choice. Still, I find the way Tiki berated the Giants on TV was a class-less act, probably done to help NBC's Nelson ratings. Shame on both NBC and Tiki if that's the truth.
I am very sorry to hear Tiki cry. He was a great player, but in my opinion, a true all-star is one who can work within the system he finds himself. As a player, Tiki always seemed to want to be #1, even when the Giants were not winning.
Huh, funny that.  Coughlin takes an expansion team to within 1 game of SB, goes what 15-1 another year and is a perennial playoff team beating such immortal teams as the Patriots and Broncos along the way and suddenly his coaching doesn't work.  Funny how being on time for meeting is such a BIG deal to players these days, and being asked to dress a certain way when traveling is such a MAJOR inconvenience for millionaire athletes.  Barber, I might add, is the only former Giants player under Coughlin that seems to be so outspoken about his coaching. Sounds to me like Barber forgets his butt would've been shipped out of NY had it not been for Coughlin curing his fumbling.  Tiki's "dream job" of being Matt Lauer's backup would be just that, A BIG DREAM if not for the man who he claims ran him out of football.  Get a grip.  
Poor Tiki.  Couldn't handle that mean old Coughlin.  Somebody has to stand up for coaches.  They have to deal with all these primadonnas and whiners like Tiki at a much lower salary.  Sucked the game out of him did he?  Yea right.  
Waaaaa.....waaaaaa.....waaaaaaaaa.......POOR Tiki!!!
Give me a friggin' break.  Cry me a river Tiki.  You have it soooooo rough.  Grow up and shut up.  When is the media going to stop encouraging and coddling these whiny, spoiled athletes?  People wonder why I prefer hockey.  I haven't watched Tiki since he retired and if I do see him, I'll turn the channel.  The NFL is turning into the NBA with their spoiled primadonnas.  It makes me sick.
Tiki Barber is only concerned with himself.  What was he before Coughlin?  A mediocre, fumbling back with a big mouth at best?  He divided the team years ago by criticizing Strahan during his hold out.  He now criticizes Eli for lack of leadership.  Good riddance! Tiki's idea of leadership is always to criticize others rather than take accountability.   I am Cowboy fan and wish Tiki would have stayed and continued to bring down a class franchise like the Giants.  However it he seems like he is doing enough damage in retirement through the media.  Good to see the NBC connections defending him on this website.
wah ,wah , wah ,is there ANYONE out there that hasn't had a boss they didn't "like" ,.giove me a break Tikik , your a whiner , the guy gave you a chance to be a great player , wah , wah , wah
Mike you must be nuts!  Tiki is a ME guy, one of many ME guys.  Tiki cares only about Tiki - disclosing his retirement during the season in an effort to secure his media job - which he stinks at.  Tiki is T.O., just with a nice smile and a calm demeanor.  Fooled you pretty easily!
 If Tiki Barber quit on his own terms, fine.  If he quit because of the coach, then I would say he has no heart.  A job can be what you make it, and I don't think Coughlin was intentionally trying to take the fun out of the game for his players.  You have to be a professional and realize the goal is th same, even if you disagree on how to go about that goal.  But everyone should have been pulling in the same direction.  Clearly, that wasn't the case with this team. Don't just blame the coach, blame the lack of leadership.
What an utter joke.  I have lost respect for Tiki Barber now.  Be a man, a respectable man, and leave well enough a lone.  His career is over now and he's going to make even more money running his mouth.  I guess he got an early start.  I personally don't think Coughlin can get the job done, but he's the warden and is running the asylum, not the other way around.  Kudos to the Giants management team that stuck by him, at least until his contract expires.  Tiki, grow up now!
Excuse me....didn't Tiki announce his retirement in the middle of the season? He retired before a decision was made as to wether Coughlin was going to be fired or not. As much as I like Tiki...we're only hearing one side of a story. It would do Coughlin and the Giants no good to distract themselves and get into a pissing match with Tiki at this point. I would respect him much more if he had just left and not torched my fond memories of him. Instead I'm going to remember him as a whining baby and a tattle tale.
The Giant's Ownership "Loyalty Mentality" goes back a long way. I still remember the plane over Giant Stadium. "15 Years is enough". I don't think that attitude will change unless Reese has the courage of a George Young.
50 year season ticket holder.
If Tiki still "loves" the game he should have asked for a trade instead of retiring. Amazing how athletes take their whining to the media when they don't get what they want.
So what else is new?  Meeting called for 8:00 am.  Everyone is seated at 8:00 am r eady to go.  Everyone is fined for not being in their seats at 7:55 am.  Children, you will not have cookies with your milk today.  Coughlin, simply stated, is a walking and talking spreader of negativity.  All coaches know X's and O's.  The good ones know how to get the best from every player.  Coughlin is just a loser, and yes, you are right.  Management is to blame.
Talk about an article that has NBC written all over it.  Of course you are going to stick up for Barber, the guy only works for this company.  Let's remember, Coughlin was a good coch in Jacksonville, getting that team to 2 AFC Championships when they were a redent addition to the league.  To say he was a failure is like saying MSNBC is a failure because they fall behind in the ratings to CNN and FOX.  Bartber needs to keep his mouth shut and let the Giants go about their business.
Hey Tiki if you still love football and want to play there are 31 other teams you could suit up for.  Quit being a baby and shut up!
There is such a thing as loyalty.  Tom Coughlin made Mr. Barber's career.  Mr Barber was a below avearge, part time running back with 'fumbleitis' until coach Coughlin came along.  

With both Mr. barber and Mr. Strahan not in training camp this year we did not hear players compalining about how tough the coach is. We also didn't hear any quotes from unnamed players - interesting.
HAHA! Tiki Barber is far from the football verson of Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant. I could write an article about the flaws of comparing the two sports athletes, but I digress on that point. Yeah yeah yeah, Coughlin may have his flaws, but who is Tiki Barber to cause conflict in the entire teams attitude toward the season? My issue with Tiki isn't the fact that he's saying these things but the way he's going about it. Announcing his retirement early last season, calling out Eli's leadership skills, and now attacking the coach. Yes! I do blame Tiki for the friction he caused last season and the continued issues he's causing as a retired player. I hope no one actually buys that book!

GO COWBOYS!!
The only thing I find more boring than Tiki "Mr. Me" is articles written by Mike Celzic. You are the most negative person. You are ALWAYS knocking someone.
Tiki is a cry baby! How come he waits until he retires to talk crap about the coach,if felt he was under paid and the coach was causing problems,he should've been MAN enough to approach the the managemnt team and tell them his concerns. I'm glad he's out the league,the league needs real MEN to stand up and be accounted for,these players are paid large sums of money but have no true character as in the old days of butkus,sayers,bradshaw,etc..... I feel he's a coward,to talk about his ex-coach(coughlin),true players keep business in house and Tiki did the opposite. Hey Tiki! Be a REAL MAN and talk to Coughlin face to face and not through the media like a coward.
Sometimes, you have to work for a boss you don't like. Does it suck? Yes. Do you get paid millions of dollars like Barber? NO! Suck it up and deal. He's an adult who played a *game* for a living. If he let one person affect his supposed love for it so much, that love must not have been that strong in the first place. He had every right to quit, but I certainly have every right to be tired of hearing him whine about it.  
Tiki announced that he is quitting much before the decision was made to keep Coughlin. He seems to have a memory lapse on this, but Giant's fans will always remember him as the the most distracting influence of last season on the Giant's team.

The least he could do is to be grateful to the man who turned him from a fumbler to a decent running back.
I don't agree. It is just the NBC trying to defend his kid. Tiki is a locker room problem, and the Best seasons of Tiki Barber was with Tom Coughlin. Maybe he is not the best coach in NFL, but he is a good one. Remenber, he led the Jaguars to the AFC title in his 2nd year in the league, and in the next year the Jaguars were the best NFL team, but injuries (Boselli, taylor, Brunell) kill them.

So you are a moron.
Mike,  A nice article except for one fact - Tiki announced his retirement early in the season.  Don't you remember, it was the Tiki Barber farewell tour.  If he really left just because of the coach, he would have waited until the end of the year to cry (oops, I mean) make his annoucement.  Tiki should win the "Just Shut Up" award.
It's all sour grapes. Tiki should shut his piehole. He had some of his best years under Coach Coughlin. You want to talk about class...when has Dan Marino EVER knocked Shula for the lack of a solids defense or running back during his first 14 years in the league...NEVER! But any realistic Dolphins fan understands it was totally Shula's fault(he was GM & Coach). So what I'm saying is that Tiki should shut up, and let the fans and media judge his career accomplishments
Mike,

If Tike cared about his former teammates, which he doesn't, he'd keep his mouth shut.  Instead he's turned into another lightweight media jerk and created a controvery for the Giant. Tiki is an example of another self centered selfish pro and another reason why many are becoming turned off with professional sports.  It use to be that one never shared their dirty laundry outside the family/lockeroom and yes I know Tike no longer plays for the Giants but that's a weak excuse for becoming another media jerk.  I guess I'm old fashion but I believ loyality is still a virtue
While I agree that Coughlin is not such a great coach, and it is no doubt that Tiki left because of the coach's "style" I do not blame management.

If you remember when Parcells decided to retire there was a young coach on his staff that showed great promise.  However, in typical Tuna fashion, Bill did not let management know of his plans to leave, and a young Bill Belichick walked on to Cleveland, and then to history.  It's Parcell's fault, and for all he has done for the Giants, I can't blame him.  But, it's his fault.
PALEEEEEZZZZEEE   !!!!  Some leader Mr. Barber was.  If he didn't like the team he was on or the coach he had, he should of said something, demand a trade, get with the owners, something then but not this crying after the fact.  Barber is very egotistical and pretty much a coward.  A real man would of sttod up and done something then and not cry about it later.  

signed,
NO FAN OF KIKI ANYMORE.
Well said!!   The only thing I question is Tiki's decision to announce his retirement in the middle of a difficult season.  I think it was a big distraction for Eli and the rest of the team.  I can only hope that it was his way of telling management "it is him or me, and I am serious".  It is very hard to figure the Giant's front office - I am afraid Eli's career will suffer for their decisions.   But hey - the stadium is sold out for the next couple of decades so who cares, right??!
This is the most idiotic thing ever written. I was a big supporter of Tiki and I still don't like Coughlin, but Tiki's actions the past two years are nobody's but his. He chooses to run his mouth, he chooses to call out his ex-teammates and supposed friends on national TV, he chooses to release a book during the football season knowing any outlandish remark he makes will draw press and distract a team on which 95% of the players were his friends. What does the hiring of Ray Handly have to do with Tiki being an egotistical nuisance?  No one blames Tiki alone for The Giants not winning the Super Bowl in the last 15 years, but as Giant's fans we would like him to shut his mouth and stop crying about the decision's he has made in his life.
To support Tiki is an absolute ridiculous stance to take. If he truly wanted to stick around, he had his chance in the exit interview to lambaste his coach but he chose otherwise, hence, Coughlin is still there. Tiki was little more than a scat back his first seven years in the league having two solid years mixed in. He was a notorious fumbler who transformed his career once Coughlin came on board. Without Coughlin, he'd have faded off into the sunset. Coughlin's biggest problem was not recognizing his two inept coordinators (Hufnagel and Lewis)  ; not his old school mentality. Tiki needs to keep his mouth shut and recognize that he has only Coughlin to thank for his name even being mentioned in Hall of Fame consideration.
Tiki should have made these statements last year, rather telling us that it was time for him to retire, that he didn't want to hang around too long and become a cripple.
So what's new!  When they had the choice of 3 assistant coaches, they picked Allie Sherman.  Oh, and the other choices?  Tom Landry or that other guy who went to Green Bay instead, Vince Lombardi.
How do you and Tiki justify these comments when Coughlin turned Tiki into a non fumbler ,a wonderful running back and a cash cow ?
you are an idiot and tiki even though he is a great player, is a typical spook.
Does anyone else think that Tiki reminds them of that guy on those "predatory lender" commercials?  You know: smiling, nodding politely, and saying the right thing while he's plotting to hose you! Coughlin, Tiki, Strahan, and Eli all deserve each other. They are egotistical, "I'm the man!" characters who have no concept of what it takes to lead a team to the rest room let alone to a championship. Giants fans (no, I'm not one) don't deserve any of them.
Cowboy fan - really glad tiki retired cause he was really a cowboy killer.  Coughlin can stay - him and Eli keep the team mediocre.
Giants look like they really missed Tiki this year and boy, did Coughlin really tear this team apart. Speaking of Boys, How bout them COWBOYS! Can't wait to watch the playoffs next year and see what creative way Romo comes up with to lose ANOTHER playoff game. Hopefully Coughlin and Eli can somehow carry on this 'mediocrity' for another 10 years.
I just read these articles and comments for the first time, and I got to tell you it's so funny listening to everyone talk about what a asshole Tiki is and how bad the coach is and now Coach Tom is a SuperBowl Champion along with Eli and the rest of his team. If the Giants owners hadn't stuck it out with Tom and Eli we wouldn't be World Chanps now!!!! this says something for patience, in todays sciety we want everthing now, we critize what we have no skill at and throw stones at those we dislike. I agree Tiki should have kept his mouth shut but think about this scenario, if Tiki never spoke up or even quite would the owners of the Giants have worked on changing Tom Coglins attitude to a more "Fun" coach as discribed by Michael Strayhan and would we have ever won the SuperBowl? thats what I think, I'm glad Tiki bitched because if he didnt I dont think the Giants would have changed for the better. Thanks Tiki for being a whinny Bitch and a Quitter! It's just to bad you had to spoil your success for everyone who admired you and looked up to you. You should have kept it in house and went out with pride. My son has your Jersey which I bought last Christmas, he is embarrassed to where it. Go Big Blue!!!!!!!!
i know im late on this.But coughlin did not fix tiki's problem.i know for a fact that he went to a gym in Littlefalls N.J. and learned all over how to hold the ball.A gym where all highschool football players go.im not saying he is a bad coach but don't forget.all the giants quite on him the year before.The Q. is do you get ride of shocky the A. is YES.He makes maneing play like shit whene he screams and yells.
 There is something people are missing in all of this. The NY GIANTS is not just another team in the NFL. We are talking about one of the team that has the history of the league on its back. Most of the players in the league now can remember when they fell in love with this game. The 80's and early 90's gave us some of the best football. The players played and the coaches coached. They all had one goal WIN AT ALL COAST! Coaches pushed player and vice versa. A coach is the strength and foundation of any team. He walks and talks with confidence and pride (a swagger). This filters over to his players and they respect him. Tiki like others went to the Giants with a since of pride and expectance, and to not have that swagger in a coach gave uncertainty to the team. A team is a direct reflection of its coach.


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