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Giants 'stomp out' dignity with post-title gloating

Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:28 PM

When you win a game, the animosity is supposed to stop. Afterwards, no matter what you think of your opponents, you congratulate them on their effort, tell the world what worthy foes they were, and act with the dignity befitting a champion.

I kind of wish the Giants would catch on. There’s no call for them to be kicking the Patriots now that they’re down. New England didn’t diss the Giants before Super Bowl XLII, and whatever talk there was on the field goes down as part of the game. Afterwards, I didn’t hear the Pats whining that the Giants were lucky or undeserving in any way, or that they still thought they were the better team.

The Giants, though, wouldn’t let it rest. They gloated after the game, and two days later, when they were collecting their keys to the City of New York (And that and $6 will get you across the George Washington Bridge.), Michael Strahan leaped high in the air, come down with a two-footed stomp on the dais, and told the cheering crowd that’s what his team did to the Pats – “We stomped you out.”

We’ve all seen the video, and if you want to see it again, it’s right here. There’s a certain childish impetuousness to the way Strahan did it the first time. But then he keeps right on with the demonstration, showing the world what he and his mates did to New England.

You can understand his glee. The Giants dethroned an 18-0 team that most people figured was on a journey to history. But Strahan’s version of events is gloating that’s hardly supported by the facts.

The Giants beat up Tom Brady pretty good and they controlled the line of scrimmage, but they didn’t actually stomp anybody out. They won a tight game on a last-minute touchdown that was set up by a catch so improbably that its author, David Tyree, insisted he had divine help in making it, and we’re not talking about the old “God-is-on-my-side” canard. Tyree insisted that Jesus himself physically put his hands on the ball to help Tyree hold it. If so, the Giants are more than lucky; they got away with having 12 men on the field. And if invisibility was the key here, then that’s a scandal bigger than Spygate, and commissioner Roger Goodell should get right on it.

But I digresss.

The Giants are worthy champions in every way, and we’ll be talking about their win for generations. There’s no need to rub it in. The Patriots’ record will hand like an albatross around the franchise’s neck forever: 18-1. There’s no need to gloat and no place for it. Not in the schoolyard and certainly not on the steps of New York City Hall.

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Oh puleeze...don't give those Patriots their halos just yet.  We all heard how they were inviting the Giants to their championship parties after the game.  They told the Giants to just "Go Home" after Brady led them down the field to take the lead.  Jeez, they were 2 TD underdogs as per those "in the know".  The Giants were dissed and written off - not only all year but all thru their improbable playoff run.  Are they gloating now...maybe so, and thanks to media types like you...deservedly so!
I could not agree more! Who did the giants stomp out? GET REAL STRAHAN! (Who is, was and always will be a loud mouth) Your defense gave up the go ahead touchdown with the game on the line! The PATRIOTS defense blew the game with... 1. Asante Samuel dropping a game ending pick that went right threw his hands. 2. 4-5 terrible miss tackles by 4 PATRIOTS while having eli in their hands which 3.led to the tyree "lucky catch". Lets backtrack... GB... Farve hands the Giants the game in OT with the pick, giants do not move ball and get a 47Y field goal to win by 3, Dallas... they win by 4 as the Cowboys almost win in the last few seconds. Tampa ... PLEASE...
The Giants got lucky and went on a run at the right time BUT by no means did you STOMP ANYBODY OUT!
One more thing... lets see what you so call STOMP next season BIG MOUTH.
Today is FEB 6. We are in the present... the Super Bowl is old news now baby... HISTORY.
ENOUGH SAID.
Mike Celizic .....your a chump...the whole world dissed the NY Giants.....they deserve to dish out some bling...lose the had and get a shave...you look like a pigeon
The stomp is something the giants defense does to pump themselves up before a game.  That was the point, which i think you may have missed.
Did you forget that the Patriots were caught cheating?  That every team was out to get them because of it.  And when that finally happened, that team, the Giants, gloated as to dis them for their actions.  Do you notice that none of the other teams mind if the Giants continue their onslaught.
Next meeting between the two teams should be interesting... This, with JT's claim that the Pats are dead is the best bulletin board material I have ever seen...Beware of the wounded beast...
Hi Mike,
I'm patiently waiting for you comments about R. Clemens, now that his trainer has submitted the viles etc. The news says when (not if) they identify the blood, they'll ask for a sample from R.C.
I couldn't get over how different A.Pettite's serious expression and R.C's in your face expression were when leaving the interagation.
Also that RC's lawyers faces are looking down, and their lips are shut tight.
I guess we're just in for a wait and see.
But I'm still looking forward to your take, as always. Thanks.
It's sad, but you have to look at the source,
now don't we?
It's just a game to Children, entertainment for the masses and a business for the players and owners and all other personnel of the NFL.
It's not surprising that these college educated (HEHEe)d athletes act like that.
I tend to agree with Mike, who has provided very steady and likewise Giant-friendly commentary during the playoffs.  I am a proud Giants fan but was just a bit put off by #92s display in front of City Hall and thought we could have done without it.  A little heavy on the arrogance and leaning towards bad sportsmanship. I guess Strahan & Co. were all just venting after having been left for dead by most of the media since the start of the playoffs. Humility is always the better and classier path.    
How ironic that you are calling out the Giants for unsportmans like behavior torward the Patriots....THE PATRIOTS!!! You remember the patriots of the 2007 2008 right?
It is a culture (American) thing. Very few win with class, instead it's all about showing up your opponent. All a part of the moral decay in our society. Oh, and as a Christian I personally have a problem with Jesus catching footballs, I would hope he would be helping people who really need him, like the women who got abused on Super Bowl sunday because their couch potato husbands got angry over the outcome of the game.
They did repeatedly "diss" us before the superbowl. The Patriots are cheaters and have no respect for anyone they play even when they lose. Their coach left the game and didn't even wait for the last play nor to say congrats to the Giants head coach. That was complete disrespect in my book and they deserved everything that they got. Also reporters were constandly talking the Giants down, so in my book, the "haters" got what they wanted!
The Giants where suppose to get pummeled and cause the guy has alittle fun for entertaining alot of poeple who came out on a rainy day isn't gloating. Strahan was just foolin around so lighten up. Moss and Harrison where very cool in there post game interview but there coach could use some help. You all whine Eli has a dead personality and someone shows alittle life and u whine. Bet Moss and Harrison could care less. Its all entertainment.
What else would you expect from a bag of wind. Few players have any class anymore. Breeding shows in how a person reacts to victory and defeat. Enough said.
to say a comment like that, is stupid. he wasnt just refering to the pats either, if you really listen to the comment...if you look at all but one of their playoff games, including the super bowl, the games could have easily gone the other way...against dallas, NY gave the cowboys plenty of chances to beat them, dallas basically choked...i dont think i would say they stomped them out though. against green bay, OT fieldgoal to win it...again i wouldnt say NY stomped them out either. against the pats, if it wasnt for eli somehow getting away from the defenders and then the unbelieveable catch, there could have easily have been a parade in boston again...but of course, someone from NY would say something like that(im from boston, it had to be said). instead of rubbing it in peoples faces like that, enjoy the wins and act like a champion because i doubt the giants will be back in the super bowl anytime soon
Mike.

I have to disagree with your assesment that New England did not disrespect the Giants. Tom Brady's Wednesday press conference regarding Plaxico's prdiction of a low scoring game was nothing but a mocking disdain for our team. With regards to Richard Seymour's comments on the Giants arrival in Phoenix being dressed in black stated "Thats what you wear to a funeral". I think in all fairness you have to give the Giants a pass on this one. By the way take a look at the New England Super Bowl celebrations and you will hear much of the same type of comments.
I've read some of your articles, and very rarely do you have positive thoughts to convey to readers.

You seem like the crotchety old man that would drive through a subzero puddle to soak Tiny Tim had he been playing on the roadside.

Sure, there is some immaturity to how the Giants players acted, but in all honesty, leading up to the contest, they were confidence, stoic, and rarely said a peep. They deserve this time to shine, especially before that fateful "Jesus guided" drive down the field when Patriots players told the Giants' offense to go home from the sidelines. And what about the Boston Globe pre-selling their 19-0 book about the perfect season on Amazon.com.

The Giants' players are just like the people that cheer them on - boisterous, loud, and at times obnoxious. If you can't deal with it, I suggest you move to Oklahoma or Georgia.

And this is all coming from a Jets fan that has had nothing to cheer for... ever and yet, I can have fun during these celebrations.
Mike, we know from your past writings as one of the very few sports writers who believed in the Giants and who saw this win coming, that you are speaking from the heart on this subject.  I have to agree with you.  Giants deserve all the credit, but really no need to keep piling on after the dust has settled.  I guess we shouldn't be all too surprised, as this kind of behavior seems to be a recurring theme in the NFL and not just attributable to the NYG.
Ok I am a Patriots season ticket holder. It was THE most painfull loss ever.  The Giants were the better team and they won.  I watched the game in total shock and with respect to the Giants win I didnt witness much "stomping".  However hard this game was on us as Patriots fans we will continue to support our team. Cant wait to face the Giants again....
Arrogance is Seymour and his fellow blabber mouths inviting the Giants to their "victory party" . The Patriots organization has been engulfed in a fog of smug arrogance for quite some time and you know what they say, "pay back is -----"
Thank you, thank you, thank you Mike!  Your article is the only one that has the facts straight and you have no idea how much it means to us Patriots fans who are heartbroken for our team, to have someone in the media write about how the Patriots are humble in every way and how the Giants (Strahan) gloated and acted like a child instead of a champion, along with the NY fans.  One game does not make a champion; how you conduct yourself and winning 18 games in a row is a champion in my book.  Thank  you again for writing the truth.      
18-1......We stomped you out!!!
I now have a small, white and black sign on the back windshield of my car. All it has on it is "18-1"
Tom Brady laughing at the thought of ONLY SCORING 17 PTS in the superbowl as Plax predicted isn't considered diss-ing the defence of the giants or arrogance in your book?  Strahan did ok by REAL GIANTS fans.
you r kidding me right???  The manner in which the Patriots bullied and humiliated teams in the league this year by running up the scores and having a coach as dismissive and arrogant (and a cheater to boot!)

Payback is a b*tch ain't it...and I say this as an EAGLES fan who wanted the Pats to lose, NOT the G-Men to win...
I could not agree more! Who did the giants stomp out? GET REAL STRAHAN! (Who is, was and always will be a loud mouth) Your defense gave up the go ahead touchdown with the game on the line! The PATRIOTS defense blew the game with... 1. Asante Samuel dropping a game ending pick that went right threw his hands. 2. 4-5 terrible miss tackles by 4 PATRIOTS while having eli in their hands which 3.led to the tyree "lucky catch". Lets backtrack... GB... Farve hands the Giants the game in OT with the pick, giants do not move ball and get a 47Y field goal to win by 3, Dallas... they win by 4 as the Cowboys almost win in the last few seconds. Tampa ... PLEASE...
The Giants got lucky and went on a run at the right time BUT by no means did you STOMP ANYBODY OUT!
One more thing... lets see what you so call STOMP next season BIG MOUTH.
Today is FEB 6. We are in the present... the Super Bowl is old news now baby... HISTORY.
ENOUGH SAID.
Now they are showing a little bit of what the Pats are all about. I would think that walking off the field before your team is finished is "classless". And wasn't that Tom Brady laughing and making fun of Plaxico about how many points he predicted the Pats would score? Wasn't that "classless"? I say, let the G-Men have their day in the sun. They certainly earned the right by beating Dalls, Green Bay and the Patriots.
They had every right to gloat.  The Pats did their own gloating.  On the field you had the defense inviting the Giants to the party after the game.  You had Brady responding to Plaxico that the Pats scoring 17 points was absurd.  Of course they only got 14.  

Then there was you.  i am talking about the media you.  Barely anyone gave the Giants a chance to win or even make it close.  You had one Boston paper Copyrighting 19-0 or 19-0: the perfect season before the game.  

Yes they had every right to do what they did.  This article seems like you are a poor loser.
The Giants "stomp" may not be the magnanamous display you hoped for but you didn't have to listen for two+ weeks about how badly your team was going to lose to the anointed Pats.

I also don't buy into how "down" the Patriots have fallen.  No team in history has won more games in a season.  Aside from Assante Samuel's peacock-like strutting every time he makes a play everyone expects him to make, the Pats are also pretty classy and in quite good shape for next year.

In the end, it's a game and should be fun.
I could not agree more! Who did the giants stomp out? GET REAL STRAHAN! (Who is, was and always will be a loud mouth) Your defense gave up the go ahead touchdown with the game on the line! The PATRIOTS defense blew the game with... 1. Asante Samuel dropping a game ending pick that went right threw his hands. 2. 4-5 terrible miss tackles by 4 PATRIOTS while having eli in their hands which 3.led to the tyree "lucky catch". Lets backtrack... GB... Farve hands the Giants the game in OT with the pick, giants do not move ball and get a 47Y field goal to win by 3, Dallas... they win by 4 as the Cowboys almost win in the last few seconds. Tampa ... PLEASE...
The Giants got lucky and went on a run at the right time BUT by no means did you STOMP ANYBODY OUT!
One more thing... lets see what you so call STOMP next season BIG MOUTH.
Today is FEB 6. We are in the present... the Super Bowl is old news now baby... HISTORY.
ENOUGH SAID.
For the past five months, the Patriots have never displayed anything other that respect for their opponents. Their off the field comments were always respectful and courteous even in the throes of 'cameragate' and Belichick bashing; however, some sports reporters, in their quest for a different slant to things (and a deadline), took this demeanor as arrogance...a bold, snooty display of superiority- and that was the perception emblazoned in the tabloids. One reporter with an attitude started the negativity campaing rolling against the Patriots (and staff) and every naysayer that was looking for an excuse for why their team was not performing the way the Patriots were, was taking every move, every nod, every step the Patriots did as a reason to hate them. But through all this negativity and adversity they still kept their composure and NEVER, EVER uttered a negative comment from ANYONE on the team.  Can that be said for THEIR opponents? NO.  
This is a joke right?  No one picked them.  Your own website MSNBC- called it a complete mismatch. I am a Redsox fan but if the Sox start to think like it is their right to win then I will stop routing for them. The Pats showed the Giants no respect for two weeks leading up to the game(ie - trade marking 19-0 and the book). Why should the Giants respect them now.  
We all heard enough of the New England Patriots. 3/4 of the season everyone had to hear and watch the Pats run up the score, and listen to how great the Pats are. "The greatest time in football history".  We all had enough. You get what you deserve.
Find something else to point a finger at......If the Pats had won they would still be giving those subliminal comments like they did while they were on their run to the superbowl.  Giants deserve to talk about this untill next September- leave them alone!
remember win NE won it's first SB, didn't they yell NY SUCKS! into the microphone?  this coming from a non giants fan too.
Are you serious? Considering that NO ONE gave them any chance at all of winning that game, who cares if they they want to "gloat" about their win. I think that New England fans I(Im assuming you are a pats fan) should stop being so overly sensitive and get over it already!
Thank you, thank you, thank you Mike!  You wrote a truthful and great article!  The Patriots have always conducted themselves as classy and humble.  None of us will ever forget the great year they gave us.  A champion does not win one game and then gloat.  A true champion wins 18 games and takes their loss like they real men they are.  I can't say the same for Strahan and the NY fans!    
typical Giants....that is why they get no respect....they talk when they win, they talk when they lose, and they talk even more when they are getting their tails kicked, which happened more than a few times this past season....they deserved to win this game.....but I don't want to hear about how Wellington Mara and George Young are looking down on a bunch of poor winners......that is why I HATE THE GIANTS
I'm glad someone said it. And I heard the commissioner didn't mention the Patriots during trophy presentation. Not one article I read after the game even mentioned the fumble and subsequent bad call by the refs in the first period: Catch, two feet down, move, tackle, and then fumble scooped up by Harrison. Ruled an incompletion. That was the play of the game as far as I am concerned. Heck, Bellichick had to call his own 12 men on the field call. Hard nose football won in the last thirty seconds? Yes. A 'stomping?' Hardly.
ummm I can understand the gentlemanliness of this article... buttera the Patriots have been all but humble this season, their fans have been all but humble, the talking heads have been all but supportive... in fact ever since the bills game week 16 they have been checked off as the losing team... so please excuse those of us who believed for gloating over a disbelieving... notwithstanding the "miracle catch"... and Eli's full hearted escape the GIANTS certainly did stomp out the Pats... like MOSS admitted "from the first snap" until the final whistle...

Go Giants and save the pity party for the Pats fans...
This reflects on the entire Giants organization. I think that a public apology for that lack of unsportsman like coduct should be issued.  I have never seen that lack of respect for an opponent. Not even the hated Yankees Red Sox rivalry has ever seen these kind of comments. These kind of comments are going to get there super bowl mvp quarterback injured next season.  
If Strahan is this bad of a winner, imagine what he would have been like if the Giants lost??!!  The difference between the Patriots and Giants is that the Patriots players win and lose gracfully, without the badmouthing.  I can't say that for Strahan and the Giants.  The Giants are full of themselves now and for that reason they will fail next season.  
Kudos to you for bringing the Giants' classlessness in victory to light, Mike.  It is not only un-becoming a true champion, but sadly, not surprising given the parade of NY knuckle-draggers we've heard from  since the game.  The Giants played way over their heads, give them credit; and the Patriots played way beneath their earlier dominance, which cost them immortality after an otherwise incomparable season.  We'll not see such a dominant NFL season in another half-century, if ever; and granted, neither will we see such a sad performance in a Super Bowl to make such a season irrelevant.  Show some class, Strahan and Giant fans -- act like you've been there before, because you won't be again any time soon.
How would you celebrate a win that most players never achieve and not likely to again?  their gloating does not show a lack of class, but just how excited they are to be world champions. they just won a game most expected them to lose, let them gloat.  what would the patriots have done if they went 19-0?  they would brag to the world of being the greatest of all time and they would have the right to do so. strahan, caught up in all they hype said what he said. Whether you agree with his analogy or not the giants did win and did what no patriot opponent could do the entire season. .  in 2007 the patrioits were on fire, the giants beat them and in essence stomped out their fire. Party on Ginats!
I could not agree more! Who did the giants stomp out? GET REAL STRAHAN! (Who is, was and always will be a loud mouth) Your defense gave up the go ahead touchdown with the game on the line! The PATRIOTS defense blew the game with... 1. Asante Samuel dropping a game ending pick that went right threw his hands. 2. 4-5 terrible miss tackles by 4 PATRIOTS while having eli in their hands which 3.led to the tyree "lucky catch". Lets backtrack... GB... Farve hands the Giants the game in OT with the pick, giants do not move ball and get a 47Y field goal to win by 3, Dallas... they win by 4 as the Cowboys almost win in the last few seconds. Tampa ... PLEASE...
The Giants got lucky and went on a run at the right time BUT by no means did you STOMP ANYBODY OUT!
One more thing... lets see what you so call STOMP next season BIG MOUTH.
Today is FEB 6. We are in the present... the Super Bowl is old news now baby... HISTORY.
ENOUGH SAID.
I remember when I was 11 years old, and coming home from a little league game with my neighbors. Their Dad was driving and we had just won easily, and were whining about a number of plays that we deemed unjust during the course of the game and generally making fun of our opponent. Don Sorrento said "You guys know the only thing that's worse than
a poor looser"? "It's a poor winner". I remember that lesson to this day. The Giants should "act like they belong there" even if they really are surprised at the great upset they pulled off.....show some class for crying out loud - even if you have to borrow it!
Well what else do you expect from  NEw York team. Have you read the New York Area papers? The media, fans, and professional teams have to be the most arrogant, pompus jerks I have ever laid eyes on.
I cannot believe in this 21st century racism is as bad as it is even blantly thru television. It was not enough to attack a history maker as all blacks are,  but the attacks were vented recently on the voting public, "blue collar, less educated ..." it does not get better. Why? Not only on msnbc but on cnn, foxnews; basically all the news channels with "snow whites" as anchors. It gets tiring after a while; the remote, don't leave the room without it.
The Patriots were running at full speed with scissors all season and the Giants tripped them up at the most opportune time. Thankfully N.E. will be a non-story next year and hopefully will get stomped every game like they deserve. Cheatriots stink..
I'd like to see one of you Patriot haters come up with an actual quote or example of the Patriots "dissing" the Giants prior to OR after the Bowl.  First, they are the only team to get CAUGHT cheating, not the only ones DOING IT!  Belichick keeps his team quiet and humble.  They don't trash talk the next team they play, they help a player up from the other team when they're down and they focus on the game at hand, never on the next 5 or whatever.  The Giants weren't lucky, they were good.  BUT they will never be world-class like the Patriots if they continue to act like a bunch of 15 year old idiot jocks in public.  What they say in the locker room is different than the show they put on in public.  I'm not surprised though.  Watch the comment boards....Giant fans tend to be just as obnoxious as the players in comparison to the Pats fans and players.
first of all the patriots have been spying since belichick arrived and thats how they won 3 super bowls and dont deserve them!! also this year they played 9 loosing teams and are also dirty players and in last game patriots defender poked plaxico in the eye and should have been thrown out of the game!! also i think godell destroyed tapes and evidence against the patriots so not to dirty the nfl more than it has been lately and destroying evidence in any situation is wrong and hope he is not allowed to destroy tape from 2002 rams/patriots super bowl run thru and also they ran scores up and if you check nfl records for quarterbacks you will not see tom bradys name there once but peyton mannings is there 13 times and now brady will be one time for breaking the 49 td record which i hope peyton breaks again!! as for michael strahan stomping it is part of a celebration and he did no harm to anyone by doing this and just watch some of the tapes of the patriots and see that they play dirty!!! and got what they deserve; to be beaten and hope it happens a lot more!!!!!!!!!


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