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Isiah won't go quietly after ruining Knicks

Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:54 PM

The ripples from Isiah Thomas’ firing are spreading already. Within minutes of his dismissal, the FireIsiah.com website had replaced its petition with a page that was blank save for a single line: “No Need For This Site Anymore - He's Toast...”

There’s only one tiny problem with that line – Thomas may not be coach anymore, but he’s still a Knicks executive. He had said he wanted to stay with the team on which he’s brought so much disgrace, and so he remains.

Apparently, the man doesn’t have enough pride to get out of town and cash the checks he’ll get for the remaining years on the contract extension team owner James Dolan so foolishly gave him last year. It is also apparent that Dolan, who’s made great mountains of money in the cable television business, is the worst team owner in the nation, worse even than the Bidwills, the family that has inflicted lousy football on two different cities – St. Louis and Arizona.

Donnie Walsh, the recycled team president who replaced Thomas in that job earlier this month, dutifully said he’d find a job for Thomas. We may presume it won’t be selling hotdogs. We may also assume that Walsh was under orders to keep Thomas around. No new team president in his right mind would hang onto the guy he replaced unless he was told to by the person signing his paychecks.

Thomas is not going to be the good soldier. It’s not in his nature. He will find ways to make Walsh miserable. If the job involves judging talent, he will also find a way to continue to drag the Knicks down.

For some reason, Dolan adores Thomas. Even after the ex-coach and team president cost Dolan $11 million in a sexual harassment judgment, Dolan never flinched in his admiration for the man who has dragged his franchise to the lowest point in its history.

Thomas came to New York promising to turn the Knicks into title contenders. He leaves his coaching job with a share of a franchise record – for most losses in a season.

And even as the losses were piling up and the team was showing less enthusiasm for playing a game than cat does for a bubble bath, he kept saying he was going to bring a championship to New York. Normally, you’d admire that sort of optimism, but in Thomas’ case it had passed the point of being hopeful and entered the realm of the delusional.

Thomas was hired as team president 4½ years ago. As it was obvious from the start that no good would come of his hiring, his dismissal comes 4½ years too late.

And still, the franchise is not rid of him. Still, he remains employed by the most gullible owner ever. Still, he will come to Madison Square Garden and continue to pollute the franchise.

Will he never leave?

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Okay Dolan is bad and gullible, but no one tops William Clay Ford and the saga of Millen with the Lions, sorry the Knicks are not the worst.
Thank God something is being done to turn this team around. I hope donnnie walsh get him a job but not in the basketball operations
The fans are the ones to blame for Isaah sticking around this long and keeping Dolan the owner of a now disgraced team. If you continued getting lousy service at a restaurant, would you keep going there?  Knick fans are gluttons for punishment as illustrated by continuing to pay top price for a subpar product.  They could have easily put an end to this landslide by hitting Dolan where in the only area he understands - the wallet.  Being a long time Knick fan, I will not even watch another game until this loser of an owner sells this team to someone who actually cares about winning.  It's almost surreal that despite the continued failures, Isaah will remain part of this team which just goes to show that Dolan just doesn't get it or maybe it's just something I don't get.  I can tell you this though, as long as either one of these losers remain part of the Knicks organization, they will continue to disgrace this once proud franchise.  The only way to correct this problem is for the fans to develop a little pride and stay home and do something with the family instead of contributing to Dolan's kingdom.
The fans are the ones to blame for Isaah sticking around this long and keeping Dolan the owner of a now disgraced team. If you continued getting lousy service at a restaurant, would you keep going there?  Knick fans are gluttons for punishment as illustrated by continuing to pay top price for a subpar product.  They could have easily put an end to this landslide by hitting Dolan where in the only area he understands - the wallet.  Being a long time Knick fan, I will not even watch another game until this loser of an owner sells this team to someone who actually cares about winning.  It's almost surreal that despite the continued failures, Isaah will remain part of this team which just goes to show that Dolan just doesn't get it or maybe it's just something I don't get.  I can tell you this though, as long as either one of these losers remain part of the Knicks organization, they will continue to disgrace this once proud franchise.  The only way to correct this problem is for the fans to develop a little pride and stay home and do something with the family instead of contributing to Dolan's kingdom.
Actually there is an owner that is worse than Dolan and his last name is Ford and he owns the Lions. How do you explain him keeping Matt Millen after years of miserable failure and draft pics.
He ran the CBA into the ground with mismanagement and it's a repeat performance with the Knicks. Jim Dolan is as much of a disgrace as Isiah so it's no wonder why he would want to keep the worst coach in franchise history. I would love to see Ewing or Marc Jackson become the coach in hopes of truly restoring hope to the Knicks, MSG, and the diehard fans of New York!
He ran the CBA into the ground with mismanagement and it's a repeat performance with the Knicks. Jim Dolan is as much of a disgrace as Isiah so it's no wonder why he would want to keep the worst coach in franchise history. I would love to see Ewing or Marc Jackson become the coach in hopes of truly restoring hope to the Knicks, MSG, and the diehard fans of New York!
Dear Mike
I am not shocked that Isiah is gone. I could see he was gone after the whole sexual harassment thing. I think the Coytoes should fire Wayne Gretzky and Rick Tocchet after the gambling thing they were in.
It is about time but I can already see Thomas continuing to influence more bad decisions.  He is like the plague.  Go away!  and Sin no more!
just dumb and blind faith. Dolan has to be talked to by the league, period.  i can't watch at all until some order is restored, and it won't be until IT is OUT of tha BLDG permanently.

Rotsa Ruck with that while Dolan is making calls...
It's been obvious for quite some time that Isiah has got something on Dolan.  Look how confident he's been ever since the trial.  That kind of confidence only comes from someone who knows something the rest of us don't.  He's got something on Dolan, and the fact that Walsh couldn't get rid of him proves it.
Apparently Isaiah has some very compromising pictures of Mr. Dolan. TMZ must be drooling.  Wasn't the CBA enough to prove to any team owner that this man is a disaster waiting to happen?  As for drifting "gracefully" settling into the organization, I worry for the new coach who's about to horribly sabotaged.  The man's a creep from the get-go.  The Hall of Fame should be ashamed to welcome a person of such low personal morals into their hallowed halls.  Shame on the Knicks for keeping this parasite around!
Be a man and LEAVE!  You do not have ANY talent as a coach or judge of talent.  You were a very good player in the 80's.  I will give you that.  Now give me something, LEAVE.  Eat grass in the pasture, it's over.
As Kirk would say to McCoy, "Don't mince words Bones, tell me how you really feel."

BTW, if Dolan is so bleepin' bad, how come he's so bleepin' rich?
Re: "worse even than the Bidwills, the family that has inflicted lousy football on two different cities – St. Louis and Arizona."

I didn't realize that Arizona had been converted into a city...did I miss a memo?
Hi Mike,
I agree with your article on Thomas. One look in the guys eyes, and you wonder whatever it is that attracts people to him.
On another subject, I've wanted to ask if you would consider writing about the following
1) Urlachers threatening to retire unless the Bears extend an already looong contract FOR $57 M made me think of how his hallowed predessor of 2 generations ago Dick Butkus worked for a fraction of that money, and retired a Bear.
2) Gale Sayers who was one of the greatest running backs I ever was allowed to see live was injured early in his career. They say that the defenses were aiming for his knees, and finally succeeded to knock him out of the league the only way possible...permanent damage.
This latter point is what I'd like to hear your opinion about.
If this is the way of nature, only the strong survive, then is it any wonder why Brett Favre/McNabb and others would get out while they're still able to enjoy their life and limbs?
Sorry if this seems rambling. The main question is....Do you think Gale Sayers was purposely hit in the knees to cripple him, and is this the way football has always been, is today, and will always be.
Thanks.
Here's a big, fat "I told you so" to the Knicks.  Sending Isiah to the Knicks was a better hex that burying a David Ortiz jersey in the concrete at the new Yankee Stadium.  This guy has been poison everywhere he's been and now the Knicks will continue to feel his pain in his new position.  You have got to hate--er, love those Knicks!
I have long said that basketball was thugs on drugs running on the living room floor in their underwear; baseball was a place to experiment with drugs, spit a lot, and grab one's privates on TV; and football has become a pre season prison camp for all sorts of criminals.
So far, hockey remains the purest of the sports, with only minor ripples comparitively. At least the players care about the game in hockey, it's fast and actioi-packed, and interesting.
The other sports simple pay the players and coached too much, supervise them too little, and hire them too young to have any emptional maturity. Mix that with corrupt management, and you have a cocktail that always leaves a hangover.
ok...THIS IS WHY YOU CANT TOTALLY FIRE THE WORST COACH IN NBA HISTORY OUTRIGHT!

You fire him outright, you free him to to go to other franchises with inside info on contracts, player developements, who to trade for who you can get cheap!  All this while still paying him!!  

So you keep him around, have him fetch coffee, have him do silly things, keep him away from any women and just hid him until his contract runs out and thats that!  He is done in the NBA...
He who pays the piper dictates the tune, goes the popular saying. The fans are the ultimate decision makers and since there was a huge resentment with Mr Thomas' performance as coach,keeping him around at any position may not be the wisest decision.
It amazes me that no one ever brings up Steve Mills. It's he who hired Thomas, he runs the Knicks not Dolan.
While I agree that St. Louis is a city, it is my belief that Arizona is in fact a state, not a city.  I ask you, if Arizona is not a state, why then do two US Senators live there?
Maybe the worst in basketball, but the worst owner of all time in any sport, the award goes to the late pathetic Bill Wirtz as owner of the Chicago Blackhawks. Who's list of dubious achievements included blacking out local televised games unless they were sold out. Great way to endear one's team to the city and to increase popularity to get people into the seats. Worse even than the Wrigley's and the Cubbies.
he isnt that bad he met crap there and did his best wat about his record in indiana that larry grumpy bird messed up

I have a great job for Isiah Thomas...  I hear basketball is catching on in Iraq.  Get your butt over there and find the Knicks some talent.  I don't care how long you have to stay, or how many doors you have to knock on, I'm sure you'll find something....
Dolan never made a dime.  His father Charles gave him everything he has, including the Garden.  Both men are arrogant and completely wedded to the bottom line.  Thomas is still with the Knicks because neither Dolan wants to pay him for nothing.  I believe Walsh will keep the false prophet on a very short leash and finally he will decide that he has been humiliated and leave of his own accord.  His New York legacy is losing, lying looking foolish 24/7.  Goodbye, Zeke, it's great to see you go, however long it takes.  Don't let it hit you in the touchis on the way out!
Arizona is a city?
Have to agree with previous posters...William Clay Ford, owner of the Detroit Lions, is not only the worst owner is professional sports, but in any business, in any industry.  The man must be in the latter stages of dimentia...it's the only thing I can figure.
Leave poor Dolan alone. It wouldn't be easy for you to fire your girlfriend either!
"shipping a batch of rejects and nobodies "
Mike stop and think next time.its there life.

How bad of a coach is Thomas, when a clown like Dolan can't even stomach him???
JAKE.......

Dolan is RICH....NOT STUPID.....



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