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Beyond time for baseball to use instant replay

Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:35 PM

I used to be one of those traditionalists who said baseball should not enter the 20th century, much less the 21st, by embracing instant replay.

I was stupid, and I was wrong.

Seeing three home runs in one week disallowed by umpires whose eyes weren’t good enough to decipher what they were looking at has convinced me it’s time to use technology to make the game better. There’s no need at the moment to use it for judgment calls on plays at first or tags at the plate or anywhere else. But it is absurdly quick and easy to rewind the tape and see whether a ball hit fair or foul, over the wall or off it. There is no reason not to do it.

That same string of bad calls apparently did the trick with the only person standing in the way of limited instant replay -- commissioner Bud Selig. One day after Alex Rodriguez lost a homer, Major League Baseball suddenly decided it wanted to experiment with instant replay in the Arizona Fall League this year and perhaps next spring in the World Baseball Classic.

Even I have to agree it’s about time.

Baseball owners GMs voted 25-5 last November in favor of using instant replay to settle disputes over home runs, fair or foul balls and fan interference. Selig didn't act on that vote, saying it goes against tradition, an argument that has been used in baseball from the day the game began.

That’s right, folks. Back in 1871, when the National Association of Professional Baseball Players established the professional game, the founders thought long and hard about using instant video replay but rejected it. No records exist of the debate that led to the decision, but circumstantial evidence suggests it was because they felt that waiting 125 years for the technology to be invented and perfected would slow the games down excessively.

In any event, if the founders wouldn’t embrace instant replay, Selig didn’t want to. This is what in baseball is considered to be wisdom.

Of course, tradition is a flexible concept. The founders also turned down the idea of night games because it was hard to illuminate a field using gas lights, kerosene lanterns and bonfires. But their descendants, who for many years fought the concept of night baseball, finally embraced it when they realized that they could sell more tickets and make more money playing at night – once science found a way to chase away the darkness.

Tradition was used as an excuse to keep blacks out of baseball until 1947, when the Brooklyn Dodgers introduced Jackie Robinson to the world and opened the game up to some of the greatest players the sport would ever see.

It was also used for years as an excuse to ignore pitchers who cut, scraped and lubricated baseballs in defiance of the rules of the game. Pitchers had always cheated, the thinking went, which made it a tradition that couldn’t be broken. But baseball got over that one, too, and today the instant a ball hits the dirt, it’s thrown out of play.

Tradition once let teams build pitching mounds up to Alpine altitudes, but when it got to the point where nobody could hit the ball anymore, that went out, too.

I could go on, but you get the idea. Tradition sometimes is a great thing because it connects yesterday to today to tomorrow. But it’s a lousy excuse to avoid doing the right thing. Singing “Take Me Out To The Ballgame” is a tradition that adds to the experience of the game. Having umpires blow home run calls is a tradition that subtracts from the experience.

So put it in, and don’t wait for the fall league. It’s real easy. Just have someone watch the game on a monitor, check the replay and signal the umpires if a ball they called foul was really fair or vice versa and if a ball did or didn’t leave the park.

Selig has the power to make it happen. He doesn’t need a test run to see if it works. We already know it does. So just do it.

Now.

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Baseball already suffers from games which last 4 hours or more.  Nobody wants to spend time waiting for some fool to watch a video replay 30 times before deciding he doesn't have any idea what happened.  Instant replay has ruined football at the professional level and threatens to accomplish the same thing at the college level.  Respect the officials and give the game back to the fans.
I agree that instant replay should be used, with rules like football.  A manager would have a set # of challenges per inning, game , or whatever.  Plus, I would extend it to balls and strikes.  The strike zone has absurd these days... and where did it ever start that the umpire set the strike zone?  Wrong!!!   It's set down in the rule book, and needs to be enforced for the moronic, blind, or on-the-take umpires!
I've tried reading that '1871' paragraph with the sarcasm it needs but it is probably the worst piece of professional writing I've ever seen.  It is just plain stupid.

As for issue instant replay I think it's a little silly not to allow it at the umpires discretion.  I don't want every manager who feels that their runner was safe at first to get to throw the hanky.  This isn't football where you can penalize by taking away a timeout.  And we don't need another umpire up in the booth undermining the umpires on the field.
Within the limits they're discussing - only determining whether and where the ball has left the field - it's a great idea. We don't need to replace the umpires for calls in the infield. Except possibly a yes/no on hit batsmen.
Hello Baseball fans! I love the original true baseball where the umps are the final say and just use natural man given talents of making calls. But...I do think is a little past time. We should all relent to the instant replay so we can make perfect calls. Its a sham that sometimes it happens when a bad call is made and we feel for the ump cuz he knows later that the call was wrong and now the other team that didnt actually win in now in the play-offs or World Series. Hope you all agree but this is why I love America cuz we dont all agree and we TALK ABOUT I, we dont kill each other or RIOT like the Soccer fans do. LONG LIVE BASEBALL AND LONG LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. PLAY BALL!!

I agree.  It's time MLB started using the technology that all other major sports already use.  It should be kept simple and quick to start - used only on judgment calls like homers, fair/foul balls and fan interference.  Umpires do a terrific job in general, but if they can get an assist from a replay to make sure they made the right call, why not do it?
Funny how it takes a blown call that costs a NEW YORK ballplayer a home run to get everyone's attention. Umps have been missing calls for years, whether it's a trapped ball in the outfield, a missed play at the plate, or a million other human error plays. But, god forbid, a NEW YORK player gets cheated out of a home run, well, stop the world! Things must change, and immediately!
New Yorkers make me sick. New York media bias makes me livid.
I'm Mark, and I'm in San Diego. Scream if you want, but you know I'm right.
I'd like to see technology replace the home plate umpires and their ridiculously subjective strike zones.  The strike zone isn't open to interpretation and the idea of giving larger zones to veteran pitchers is a joke.
and they want to make the game faster?
It's a Game!!! People make errors!  If this was thirty years ago when games "only" lasted 2-2 1/2 hours that would be one thing - but this would just had to that -  and slowing the game down even more isn't a good idea.   Granted, it is unfortunate, but how often would it be necessary?  Besides, these bad calls are also what makes talk around the water cooler that much more fun the day after.  Baseball games need need to stick to it's heritage and away from this unnecessary technology - make the game move along quicker instead...   It certainly wouldn't help our Team!
Baseball is slow and imperfect. It has been that way for over 100 years, the records are based on it, and it should stay that way.  It's bad enough with playoff brackets, interleage games, and overpaid gorillas.  
Mike, baseball games run too long as it is.  Can you imagine how much longer they'll be with instant replay?! I say no to this.  
how do you make a boring one dimensional slow horrible game even worse? give them a 5 minute delay in the middle of it to see where the ball goes. or if a guy's foot got there a split second before the ball. seriously who cares? baseball sucks. period.

in a fast paced game like curling we should add instant replay as well.
Instant replay is long overdue, but, at the same time, we should limit the amount of time a pitcher dwadles between pitches thereby offsetting the game slowing IR's.(not sure 'dwadles' is spelled right but you get the point.)
Two words: Jeffrey Mayer
No, no, no.  No instant replay in MLB.

Nothing has destroyed the energy and flow of professional football more than the long delays of watching a referee look into a teleprompter while windbag commentators speculate on the outcome.

Let's keep the sports humanistic or convert them all to robotics and computer-generated graphics if you don't want realism.

What's next?  The whiny ball player wanting to review a called strike three?

I say "Play ball!"  It's only a game after all.  We don't get instant replay in important things like disaster relief, feeding the hungry or choosing to go to war.
Why do we need to even bother with umpires, or players for that matter? Just load up the stats in the trusty Dell computer and click on the start button and we would have a World Series Champion in nano-seconds. This could also be used for the Cy Young award and all the rest of the accolades we give baseball players. In fact, think about the savings on professional players salaries that the owners would have. Instead of a draft, just take the college stats and have the computers extrapolate who would be the next MVP. Baseball is a game played on an ever expanding field, with no time limit, and strategy behind every pitch and every hit. It is a game played by humans and umpired by humans. Humans make mistakes, it's part of the game. When a player makes a mistake it is called an error, when an umpire makes an error it is called a shame. To take the humanity out of the game changes the face of the game itself. I couldn't disagre with you more.
I have a brick of colby cheese sitting in my fridge that  is more interesting than 9 innings on rubbish.  Thank you, and good day.
agreed.
No way should instant replays be used in baseball. It's part of the game and it's an integral part of the game. It's not about fair or not fair. Having bad and/or biased calls during a game makes the game better for the fans. It's a much-needed drama. If there was instant replay then there would have never of been the drama of the missed two home run calls last week. It would have been another typical week for baseball, but instead people tuned in and howled and hollered which brings more interest to the game. When Alex Rodriguez hit his homerun that was called a double there were millions of Yankees fans who were irritated and millions of Red Sox fans who were toasting their beers together. Had instant replay been involved then millions of fans would just shrug their shoulders and flip the channel to American Idol while they figured it out. So, Mr. Mike, you are completely wrong in wanting to implement instant replay. All of the great missed calls that this game has seen would mean nothing and future generations would have nothing to talk about to their grandkids.
You can't just insert a new rule halfway through the season which is why they are waiting until the fall league.  That would basically say that those other runs should count cause the rules were in for part of this year.  There have been bad calls in all sports forever, it happens and if the instant replay helps minimizing that then it makes sense, but wait until next season please.

I'm for instant replay as long as they keep it to Homeruns only, the rest is a judgement call and shouldn't be scrutinzed this much.
mike, last time we chatted was the martha burke flap at the master's. sorry iam a traditionalist. no instant replay in baseball. let the umpires make the calls. right or wrong it part of the game. every close call at first base jeez, can you imagine the delays in the game? other umps can overrule,ect. what about balls and strikes? i could go on. you get the point.
I think it should be the way the NFL does it.  The on field umps get to see the replay and make the call.  I think people will accept it more that way also.  They'll see it as just an enhanced way for an ump to see which is what everyone should want.
Instant replay will make games that are already too long, drag on even longer.    
The disputes are the "spice" of the game (similar to the "tussles" in hockey).  
Something that bonds all fans together is the eventual and general disagreement with the game officials.    
Instant replay in baseball will subdue one of the all time guaranteed highlight reel moments, a full blown, dirt kicking, hat throwing Lou Pinella tirad.   Now who want's to see that go away.

Leave instant replay to the princesses in football.
Selig is a tool.  Anyone who keeps Pete Rose out of the game whilst' watching the likes of Bonds and Clemens kill it doesn't deserve to run such a great game.  Selig needs to understand there is a big difference between run and ruin...and for him, there is an "I" in ruin.
Mike, I agree it's time to use instant replay in MLB. My suggestion would be to have 5 man umpire crews and have them rotate as now, but with a fifth rotation as "replay umpire", who would be located in the press box and able to communicate with the crew chief, or respond to questions from the crew chief.
My main concern, and it's a significant one, is with a fair/foul call on a ball in play. Runners and fielders react to the call on the field. Going back and reversing it can't adequately re-create how the play would have played out if the call had been correct on the field. For example a ball down the line is called foul, so action stops. The replay shows it was fair - does the runner on first go to second or third - does the batter get a single or a double - what if the outfielder would have had a chance to throw out the runner trying to reach third base?
Maybe replay can only be used when the result is a ball out of play, like to resolve home run calls.
The other concern, of course, is the slippery slope argument - that eventually we'll see some kind of review process for all calls including ball/strike calls, and games will never end.
The problem is that foul balls were being miscalled since 1871, so there really is no reason to change it  just because a few players today were ticked off. The judgement of the umpire in baseball is absolute. Umpire mistakes are a part of the game, and it adds to baseball's mistique. There is no court of arbitration, and players have been getting hosed by bad calls since the beginning. The day video is introduced into the show, is the day umpires are no longer the final word on the field, and then balls and strikes, and every call will become a manager argument. There really is no reason to add video. Lights did not change the game, they just changed when it could be played. Doctoring the ball didn't go away, it just became harder. Blacks being allowed into the game also did not change the way the game itself was played. Putting video into MLB WILL change the game. It will make the game longer. It will encourage managers to challenge every call close to a foul pole. It will begin the slipepry slope towards laser-lined computer monitored "strike zones" and bag sensors at first to judge the call. All that technology is out there, and once video gets in, the floodgates will open. Let's keep this game simple please. Leave the high-tech BS for Fox-NFL.
mike, nail-on-the-head.....tradition (see pending nhl death..ie fighting, assaults)
Combine:

"There’s no need at the moment to use it for judgment calls on plays at first or tags at the plate or anywhere else."

with

"I was stupid, and I was wrong."

and ask yourself, why WOULDN'T you use it for close plays. Or do you think it's better to have managers/ players/umpires waste 5 minutes arguing when 5 seconds of viewing the instant replay would resolve the situation. It's absolutely moronic when they show the instant replay on the big screens, and the only people who DON'T watch it are the umpires. Everyone BUT them knows the correct call. How FUCKING dumb is that?
Yes it's way over due.  And I'll tell ya, umpires should no longer call balls and strikes -the variables for change and reasons to automate it are endless.Keep the little winer umps at home for all the other reasons, but .... use replay for calls at the plate if contested.
Yes it's way over due.  And I'll tell ya, umpires should no longer call balls and strikes -the variables for change and reasons to automate it are endless.Keep the little winer umps at home for all the other reasons, but .... use replay for calls at the plate if contested.
I'm not so concerned with the "tradition of the game," but seriously, who wants to add an element that makes a baseball game even longer?  Yanks/Sox games average a cool 3 hours and 30 minutes, I believe.  Imagine if there were any plays to review and how long it would take?  What's to stop them from reviewing every single questionable play (and add 5+ minutes to the game time everytime it happens.)???

Plus - don't fans get more entertainment value out of seeing their manager scream at an umpire over a call?  Isn't the point of baseball supposed to be entertainment?  
Instant replay slows down football.  I believe it was a good change for that sport, but notice you never hear anyone called a "football purist".  The game and its rules have been in constant evolution.

Baseball's resistance to change has been one of the things that makes baseball the most nostalgic of sports and the only sport where stats really matter.  Part of that nostalgia is hating the umpire for blowing a call.  Just think how unmemorable Earl Weaver would be if instant replay had resolved all those disputes he had with umpires.
Selig is right, baseball is the last game where traditions are important...leave it alone...keep instant replay out...nobody cares except the few media sports addicts!  Sit back and enjoy what is the perfect game despite a few "errors' by human umpires!
I think there should be a special box next to where the broadcaster's booth is behind home plate and there should be an umpire just viewing tape there, that way he can relay it by radio to the crew chief, and all other umpires on the field
well you are stupid and wrong... i do not watch the sports scene at all.. find it all so boring and childish... if that is how you need entertainement... and perfection with no errors or   give and take ...then have triple recall so there are not one errors...
Umpires are human like the rest of us so it's a no-brainer that instant replay be allowed. I've seen many a team lose a game because of a wrong call.
In a sport where suspensions/fines are routinely appealed/overturned, instant replay is a really bad idea--it's also just another way of taking the human element out of the game. Many professional players/coaches are already poor role models in terms of showing respect for umpires/the game. Creating an avenue to question the umpires' judgement erodes their credibility. It would be as if a parent said, "No" to a child, and the child had the option to go over the parent's head for another opinion. The buck needs to stop with the ump.
You're an idiot.  Listen you yourself, Mike.  Instant replay is needed because the umpires aren't good enough?  GET SOME BETTER UMPIRES!!!!  

You know, my team's pitching isn't all that good either.  Why don't we just put a pitching machine on the mound?  Wouldn't that give us more strikes?  My goodness, get some perspective please.
I have to agree, in extrmely limited circumstances such as home run calls, though not fair or foul unless it is a home run situation. If it is not limited, replay will start to creep into every aspect.

I'd hate to see it then relegated to use only upon challenge, such as the NFL.
I want to know why the players don't step up and help the umpires makes the "right" call.  They play the ball off the wall knowing it was a homerun only to confuse the umpires.  Where is the integrity in professional sports. They should take a cue from the college gals who carried the girl around the bases when she hit a homerun and injured herself because that was the "right" thing to do, or the amatuer in the masters who assessed himself a penalty stroke when he addressed his ball and it moved just a fraction of an inch.  I think with all the controversy surrounding professional sports ie cheating, violence and off field mishaps they should start being better role models and play the game with more integrity...its a privelege to be a professional athlete not a right.
On the other hand, we also need to be able to keep the game moving.

So why not just maintain a constant six-man group? Or even just another guy upstairs that's only responsible for that?
Tradition is in the way of replay, then why did they
put in the DH, just to employ high paid old men that
can not hit because they think a home run is all that
counts. I am fed up seeing guys with a bat that never
learned how to use it properly. They should be Do's
because outs is all most can contribute, or strike out.
For what it's worth, I am still opposed to instant replay.  The variability in the quality of umpires' calls is a part of the drama of the game.  In the long run, the number of calls erring against you would balance out those in your favor.  Using instant replay would cause aggrieved parties to go on fishing expeditions and ask for replays on every close call.   Plus, this would be the first step in diminishing the role and authority of the umps.  They'd become mere formalities on the field.  Why not just go all the way and get rid of umpires completely and have every ball, strike, fair/foul, home run, etc., called remotely on video by unseen judges at consoles in a TV control room using high resolution, precision-positioned cameras.  Or, better yet, let computers to the judging and call every strike correctly within thousandths of an inch.  Let the slippery slope begin.
Yes, because pro baseball isn't slow enough.
Dear Mike
I think there should be instant replay in Baseball. There is instant replay in the NBA and NFL and NHL. The IOC could have it. The NCAA Baseketball and Football.
Does truth mean anything nowadays? How could anyone NOT want to know the truth about what happened, even in a game? Instant replay allows us to get a better handle on the truth. Find other ways to speed up the game. Intentional walks, for example, could be given automatically, instead of going through the motions of pitching the ball four times. The idea of limiting the time between pitches is also a good one.
To those who say no to instant replay because it will affect the flow of the game. what would you rather see, the manager and the umpire going back and forth over the call for 10 minutes or someone up in the booth get the call right in 2. You make the call
Philosophically I'm against instant replay; tradition, purity of the game, warts and all etc. However, the officiating has become so bad, I think it is now necessary. The fact is, the technology is there to darn near eliminate the umps altogether, especially behind the plate. And as far as speeding up the game, that's not on the pitchers, its the batters; get in the darn box and stay there!
I do not understand the umpires concern.  Although the technology exists to replicate the umpires function no amount of technology can replicate the arrogance, ignorance and stupidity most umpires can muster.  Until they can the umpires job is safe.


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