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Get better judging, or ditch boxing from Olympics

Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:46 PM

BEIJING – Either amateur boxing finds a way to fairly judge fights, or the International Olympic Committee has to dump the sport.

I’m not saying this because a couple of Americans – most recently Demetrius Andrade – are whining about being hosed by the officials at the Workers Gymnasium. I’m saying it because the judging stinks.

There is near-universal agreement on that. Eastern Europeans, Great Britain and Cuba are among those who have joined the Americans in saying the judges are incompetent, biased, on the take or all of the above. If Cuba agrees with the United States, you know it’s serious.

The only country not complaining is China. The country is new to Olympic boxing and its fighters are inexperienced and without shining credentials. But, somehow, they’re winning an awful lot of fights, often for no discernible reason.

In 1988, Roy Jones Jr. was robbed in Korea by judges who handed the gold medal to a Korean. The decision was so bad that the International Amateur Boxing Association instituted electronic scoring for future championships, including the Olympics.

The system employs five ringside judges, each of whom has two buttons in front of him, one red and the other blue. The colors correspond to those worn by the boxers. When a judge sees a fighter land a clean punch, he has to push the appropriate button immediately. If three judges hit their buttons within one second of each other, the punch counts and the fighter gets a point.

The boxing association says it has the best judges in the world here. Watching them operate, you quickly get the feeling that’s like bragging that your kitchen is infested with the world’s biggest cockroaches.

The judges do tend to be old, and their reflexes aren’t what they used to be. Under pressure to hit those buttons instantly, it’s not even certain they always push the one they intended to. Punches that everybody in the arena sees aren’t counted. Punches that no one sees – sometimes punches that didn’t even seem to be thrown – show up as points.

Most absurd is that fighters have knocked down opponents without getting credit for landing a punch. This being amateur fighting, boxers get no extra credit for knockdowns.

Corruption is endemic to boxing. It’s been there from the beginning and refuses to go away. There are reasons for that. Boxers generally come from the lowest socio-economic groups, and are desperate to get out. The judges that come from a lot of countries aren’t independently wealthy and they get their jobs by pleasing the people handing out the meager paychecks. So they had better please the folks with the money or they’re not getting any.

They’ve never been averse to seeing a little extra in their pay envelope for favors rendered. They’re also quite happy to accept whatever gifts are showered on them by the hosts.

The electronic scoring is just as susceptible to manipulation as the old-fashioned scoring on paper was. If a judge wants the blue corner to win, he simply neglects to push the button for the red corner. Get three out of the five judges on your side, and you’ve got the fight.

The only way to combat the impression that the fix is in for certain fighters is to get judges who call it the way everybody else but them sees it. One suggestion I’ve seen makes a lot of sense: have three judges registering punches for the red corner and three for the blue. That way they can concentrate on just one fighter. Also, score extra points for knockdowns.

My own desire would be that independent judges be assigned by the IOC to the Olympics. They don’t have to know anything about boxing, and they shouldn’t be associated with the sport in any professional capacity. Get six young men and women, assign three to red and three to blue, tell them to hit the buttons when they see a clean punch land, and you’ll get better judging than what these guys are giving us. You’ll also get a little honesty.

Most of all, you’ll save the sport in the Olympics. Because if it keeps going as it has for the past 20 years, there’s no sense in keeping the sport. The Olympics are about the best against the best in fair competition. It’s time for boxing to either buy into that ideal or get out of Dodge.

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Agree with you again.
But I still can't see why you are crying foul.  Based on your opinion regarding the Chinese gymnasts I would assume you would say that since officials say it's legit it is not our business to question anything even if it seems obvious.
I would go even further and say stop awarding medals in ALL subjectively-judged sports in the Olympic Games.  It is simply too easy for personal bias and payoffs to creep into the judging process, and judges at all levels of all sports have repeatedly shown that they cannot be trusted to subjectively dole out marks.  Doing this would be a win-win - the television networks get to keep their cash cow and Aunt Tilly still gets to watch her ice dancing and rhythmic gymnastics every 4 years.
It is an increasingly obvious point that judging in several sports must be questioned.  There is the obvious judging bias rendered in the Olympics in Athens which corresponded to a medal forfeiture.  Boxing in the Olympics should not be compared to professional boxing since no judge can be related in any way to the professional sport.  However, the obvious judging embarrassments which have happened for many countries, and their fighters have shed the light on the need to focus more on the background checks of judges, and their scoring methods.  Independent judging should take place from a pool of judges systematically chosen from different countries with as little economic affiliation to the countries competing as possible.  They already spend an enormous amount of money on these types of research projects, I'm sure a conglomerate of collegiate and professional experts can come up with a much more fair judging system to ensure amateur athletic competition remains competitive and fair for all.
I love boxing.  I grew up in the San Fernando Valley of LA.  The hispanic sense of machismo was more than just "a way out".  A tall skinny irish kid like me had to learn defend himself.  Pride is a word that comes to mind.

Get rid of the head gear.  A cut?  Too bad, bad stuff happens to good people.  People get cancer, people die.  Bad calls are a part of the game.  Just because TV can show it in ulta-high-def-slow-mo shouldn't change it ON ANY SPORTING LEVEL OR SPORT.  Count knock downs as serious blows.  Count the body blows.  I'd rather have 1 Roy Jones or Evender Holyfield robbery than lose the sport all together.

I fear it's too late:(  Teddy Atlas is worried, you can tell.  Teddy FOR PRESIDENT!  Get Teddy to clean it up...if he can.


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