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Young needs to face facts, quit pouting

Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:02 PM

It’s never a good sign when a professional athlete needs his mother to speak up for him. We’re talking about grown men here. And while everybody needs a hug from Mom now and then, they don’t need it in the middle of the locker room.

 

So this stuff about Vince Young and his mom is troubling. Vince is having some problems winning football games, the fans are booing, he’s sulking and mom is telling the media to lay off her baby boy because “he’s hurting inside and out.”

 

I’ve no doubt of the accuracy of the statement. Nor do I question for a moment the genuine emotional pain this is causing Felicia Young. No one wants to see her son failing in public and getting booed for it. If I were her, I’d be angry, too.

 

But I’d keep it between him and me. I’m certainly not going to give an interview to a newspaper to tell the world to lay off my poor darling, even if that’s what I’d wish they’d do. And I doubly wouldn’t say that he’s not sure he wants to play football anymore.

 

Your heart goes out to both Young and his mother. At the same time, if he’s playing for your team, you have to be cringing over all of this. There’s no crying in the locker room. Especially over being booed.

 

What the Youngs have to understand is different rules apply when you sign on to play professional sports.  There’s a huge upside – money, fame, adulation. That’s the part kids dream about. But if you want that upside, you’ve got to accept that it’s not all beer and skittles. You’ve got to accept that if you don’t play well, the fans and the media are going to tell you about it. The media will be snide and the fans will boo and call you names. They may even call your mother names.

 

If you want the good stuff, you’ve got to take the bad stuff. It’s like I told my kids when they found some bloggers who take delight in pointing out that I wouldn’t have a room temperature IQ in a walk-in freezer: It’s an honor to be thought important enough to be made fun of. And it is. Even when I get a bit annoyed at the things that are said, I remind myself that it’s really a compliment. At least I’m not ignored.

 

Young is making a lot of money to be an NFL quarterback. If he doesn’t want criticism, he can go home, get a real job and be as anonymous as the people who are booing him. I don’t think he wants that. I know he doesn’t.

 

He loved being the man at Texas, loved beating Reggie Bush and USC, loved being a high draft pick, loved being adored everywhere he went during his rookie season. He also loved the pay checks. Who wouldn’t?

 

Things aren’t going as well now. He’s been watching sports long enough to know that fans boo. He’s probably booed someone himself at some point in his life. I’m kind of curious to know if his mom told him not to do that because it wasn’t nice. Maybe she did. And maybe not.

 

In any event, whining and pouting and having Mom lecture the media isn’t the way to react. The way it works is he gets angry and redoubles his efforts to learn his craft, then he goes out and turns the boos to cheers. I’m sure his mom won’t call a press conference to ask the fans to stop being nice to her son, which is the problem. You can’t have all the good stuff without accepting that you might also have to endure the bad stuff.

 

Young will be back. He was understandably down and he reacted childishly. But he’s a competitor. He’s also got a couple of weeks to think about things while his sprained knee heals. Let’s hope he spends it thinking about how the fans aren’t booing because they don’t like him, but because they want him to be as great as they think he can be. It hasn’t been about him as a person, but his performance.

 

That’s part of the deal. You take the good with the bad. And you don’t let Mom fight your battles for you.

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It is so unfair to say things like that about people you know nothing about or what that person is going through it is hard to get up every day and do your job and be perfect, you can't be perfect everybody needs someone in their corner every now and again why don't you stop crying.
Plain and simple V.Y. needs to grow up.  He's not a grade schooler anymore and needs to start acting like an adult, not a two year old who's crying about his spilled milk.  This is a big boys game and if he can't handle a little critism then he should go the hell home and stay there while crying into his mothers bosum.  
Where the heck is my comment.
Dear Sir,

I've commented a couple of times before when I had a bone to pick.  This time, you're firing dead center.

The only thing I might have added is that is "VY" (as he's known in town} might have to adjust his lifestyle if playing football for a living is 'too hard'.  You're right on this one.  He's obviously been pampered ever since somebody recoginzed he could play.  Read the reader comments on the Nashville Tennessean web site to see that even 'fans' see this for what it is and they don't appreciate a whiney-ass-cry-baby.
"If you can't stand the fire get out of the kitchen."  Be a man and quit Vince Young.  Vince Young's college style of play had no chance to make it in the NFL he should be so lucky to have earned a paycheck in the NFL.  
You fire un-qualified workers in the "real world" so in the words of Donald Trump  "Vince Young...Your Fired!" It is sad that Vince Young is not man enough to quit on his own.  
This is to VY, Suck it up. You are being paid millions to play a game that little kids pay to play. Just because you stunk it up and some fans got on your case is no reason to behave like a child. You got paid so suck it up and play.

This is to the Titans organization: YOU SHOULD HAVE PICKED CUTLER.
Please lay off this family.  Maybe the mom shouldn't have said anything, but he clearly must be hurting right now.  Mocking him or his mother isn't going to help the situation.  The fact that he makes a lot of money doesn't change the fact that he's depressed  right now.  Let them sort through this serious situation.

Vince, keep your head up, we're praying for you!
I hope his mom gets to read this.
Great Article. This drama is evidence of why people would like to see these athlete's stay in school all 4 years. It is a very difficult to deal with fame, fortune and, ultimately, the negative's that come with it.

Vince Young has not progressed and has not continued to improve during his time in the league. He came on the scene strong because of his one great college year and people expected him to be the next Michael Vick..Let's all hope he gets his head on straight and doesn't go down that path.
I don't think he will ever be a great quarterback in this league, but Matt Lienart is not proving his worth either..
O, Please. Just shows he has family that supports and loves him. You're just a bitter old man that doesn't have that. WE LOVE vince Young, he's excellent and we all have our falls, but he'll get up. so SHUT UP, crybaby.
Thanks for pointing out how idiotic this entire thing has become. The Titans invested a lot of time and MONEY into Vince and now that he is a 3rd year starter the fans and I am sure the team are ready to see him hold up his end of the bargain by playing solid football.

I respect that his Mom loves him and I hope she can help him use the next couple weeks off to grow up and realize that nobody is picking on him, but that it's all part of being a Pro in the NFL and he can either start playing like everyone thinks he can, or go home with his Mom and nobody will say anything bad to him.
Excellent.  Nothing else needs to be said. Thank you Mike.  This is why I subscribe to this blog....zzjohn
Spot on, Mike!  There are few things worse in sports than a multimillionaire whining about "nobody loves me".  I'll make him a deal ... I'll trade places with him for a Monday - Saturday, and get 6 days worth of his pay.  Then he can get an up close and personal view of "tough" times!
I agree with the comment that was said up above. However he is human and right now he is riding on his emotions. However if he dosen't want to play anymore, he should man up and return the unuse portion of the money. Thankyou
The man is just terrible and no one wants to admit it.  The Titans have all the other ingredients to be a great team, but winning in the NFL is predicated on good QB play, not to mention sound decisions in the front office.  Cutler played in their back yard for four years and they ignored him.  Young is gifted athletically but does not have what it takes to play QB in the NFL.  Wide receiver or defensive back.  Besides, on top of everything else, he's a mama's boy as well.  Who's going to respect him now?  
Well said.. Great article... Just another example why rookies should have some sort of maximum salry cap..Tired of seing huge contracts to guys that simply cant perform at the pro level...
The fact is, even though Vince Young almost single-handedly beat USC, the moment he got into the spotlight you could tell he was dumb as a box o' rocks. As time goes by in the NFL or NBA or whatever, you have to have a few smarts to play the game at that level, not just some athletic skills. So Vince's problem is starting to show itself. He's just not smart enough to play pro ball.
I had a killer presentation at work this past week but failed to get the raise I wanted. Everyone in the office made fun of me. I called my mom to come in to talk to my boss but she was too busy baking cookies.
Vince needs to get his head off Mama's shoulder. He is a Professional Football player, so if you are going to go crying to mommy every time someone boos you, then stop playing the game. You have to be able to take the good with the bad. When you have the most looked at position on a football team and you dont live up to the expectations of that position you know the fans and the media are going to let you know that. Its part of the job.
i agree with your blogging friends concerning your IQ. You leave my Vince Young alone. he can play for my team anytime. everyone is allowed a mental time out every once in awhile, even the pros.  
You're exactly right.  He needs to "MAN UP".  You can really lose the respect of your peers by running to Mama.  Vince, severe those apron strings and if your mom is living in the home with you get a pet and move your mom to another neighborhood.  She needs to stop doing Vince PR and you start behaving like a grown MAN!!!    
I saw Vince play while he was at UT and know what a competitor he is.  However, that didn't mean he still didn't get booed by Texas fans when he was a redshirt freshman (even a game as a sophomore).  What did he do?  He took it upon himself to work to get better, and brought the team closer together along the way.  Texas then proceeded to win 2 BCS bowls and a National Championship.  I think this is why you normally see rookie quarterbacks in the NFL sit out for a few years.  It is a lot of pressure to have the whole weight of the franchise on your shoulders immediately, no matter how talented you are.  I think Vince will bounce back, physically and emotionally.  While he is out, can we maybe find him a receiver to throw to when he gets back?
Ha Ha ! ! !   I'm loving this...  Living in Austin for over 8 years, I've had to endure with the daily "Hook em horns" and the obsession with a mediocre color in burnt orange.  And 2 weeks agp, I was privileged (or tortured) enough to be convinced to join a best friend who is a decade-long season ticket holder at the Texas home opener.  This also was the game where they had Mr. VY in town to retire his jersey.  I've never seen Vince so happy.  He looked like a kid in a candy store (I think he forgot how crappy he's looked in preseason).  And then.. REALITY CHECK...  The NFL. Not For Long is he keeps this up..  I'm loving it.  Hey Texas fans, you always have 2005.  Enjoy as Vince will never amount to a stellar QB in the NFL
You ever thought that Vince may have Phsycological issues deeper than just not having people like him or him failing on the football field...

Now I'm not saying thats the case, but he has had issues before and patterns seem to be occuring...
Vince Young is just a bigger version of Michael Vick on the field. A quarterback with a big arm, and empty head, who loves to run 1st and pass second. His career stats explain that. If he dont want to play football anymore, by all means, get out. The Titans will be better off in the long run, because  I just dont see this crybaby amounting to much of anything in the NFL.  
Vince Young is just a bigger version of Michael Vick on the field. A quarterback with a big arm, and empty head, who loves to run 1st and pass second. His career stats explain that. If he dont want to play football anymore, by all means, get out. The Titans will be better off in the long run, because  I just dont see this crybaby amounting to much of anything in the NFL.  
Man, you just have the whole world figured out...maybe you should wait for more facts before you put down another athlete and offer criticism of how things work in the NFL.

I have to think that many players say things in the heat of the moment in private when they get booed or make mistakes on the field.

i bet even Brett Farve, early in his career, probably spouted a few obscenities about fans who booed him in teh privacy of his home.  after the emotion wore off, he got back out there and played his heart out for those same fans.  it's just emotions and testosterone at work.  the difference is that Brett's wife or mom or sister or whomever he confided in didn't run to the press.

i dont think Vince did anything wrong here, i think his mother comming forward is the problem.  i'm sure if i ever got booed by people i was making an effort to entertain, i'd be POed too. and i may vent to a trusted family member or friend.  hopefully it would stay there, unlike Vince's mom who told the press.
Vince Young is the second coming of Michael Vick on the field. Hes got a strong arm, and empty head, and looks to run before he passes. His career stats explain that. If he wants out of football, by all means, See Ya, Vince. The Titans would be better off without him anyway, I just dont see this crybaby amounting to much in the NFL.  He was top of the heap in college, and now that hes in the NFL, he just cant handle it.
I take exception to a few generalizations in this story.  First and foremost, I don't care about Vince Young or his Mother and I'm sure there are people out there that feel the same way.  Why is it that we all of a sudden have to have deep emotional feelings for athletes and actors or anyone outside my circle of family and friends.  The world won't end if he never plays another down nor will it greatly improve if he does.  Secondly, this guy needs to grow up and act like a man.  So he gets booed.  Rex Grossman knows what that's like, so does every QB that played for Miami last year.  If he played better, he wouldn't get booed.  Last but not least, these guys need to tell their mommies and daddies to STFU. Who cares what these people have to say.  So they gave birth to someone with sports skills.  Big deal.  At least I don't have to watch her damn Chunky Soup commercials where I live.
AMEN, I agree with EVEYTHING that was said! He needs to get over it, my goodness he is a grown man, LIVE with it, I mean we are suppposed to feel sorry for him because he is having a BAD DAY??? OMG with what he makes, I will take his BAD DAYS over my BEST DAYS anyday!!!! All I can say is GROW UP!!!!
Excellent article with one very important point that Vince (and any performer) has to realize:

"It hasn’t been about him as a person, but his performance."
Wow I can't even believe I am reading this...his mom?  I know what the problem is...she never cut the cord.
I used to have a total lack of respect for Bo Jackson when he would take himself out of a football game, any time someone hit him just a little bit hard.  But I got to thinking about it...At least he didn't head to the sidelines and pout like a three year old.
I would refer to this individual in question as "Mr. Young", but I normally reserve that salutation for adults.  Obviously, Little Vincey hasn't made it to that qualifying round yet.  If he thinks he's been hit hard up to this point (and no doubt the fan's boos have more sting than any facemask to the mid section), just wait until he takes the field now and eleven opposing defenders see what kind of lesson they can teach a crybaby.
You nailed it Mike. As a fan it is all about the W! Heck if he had more Brett Favre type efforts and came up short the fans would be able to handle that, however when he is playing like he is on JV, it is difficult for the fans to swallow. I am sending Vince and his mom some California Cheese to go with that 2 Buck Chuck they are consuming in mass quantities.
Mike,

How understanding and empathic.  All professional sports organizations (and journalists) would do well to recognize that players are human (not superhuman) and treat issues (drugs, gambling, violence, depression) as opportunities to help others (including young athletes)rather than fodder for the sensationalist news cycle. You are a long way from being helpful.  I hope Vince Young finds someone with more understanding than the average sports journalist.
Maybe Vincina needs to pull up the old skirt, and "Football UP". What's next? Will he have Mommy sign as a Free Agent so she can line up in the backfield to scold and slap any "Big Ol' Meanie" defensive player that scowls, yells, threatens, blocks a pass  or, heavens forbid, actually tackles her little snookums. Yeah, I know he could pound me into the ground, but I'm just a middle aged, middle income working stiff who gets praise when I do my job right, and chewed out when I don't. And I have never had my Mommie tell my Boss and co-workers to be nice to me because it hurties.
You're not a mother though. You're looking at the matter from the eyes of an observer, a writer, ultimately just a fan of the sport. The “sensitive jock” is a taboo character in today’s popular culture. The rigors of the pro-life - Although a lot of stars in professional sports rake in the dough, lest not we forget most of them are still boys (and girls) even if the nominal number of years they have spent on Earth indicates they’re grown-ups. Sometimes young folk need some space to sort out want they want in life, they need patience, and they need a respite when it comes to the intense scrutiny and criticism others like to heap on them. At other times, especially in environments full of machismo, young folk may try to repress and subdue their sensitivities which may not always be the best thing to do.
I like the way you somewhat blasted him it was needed. We as fans have these star athletes that either lets us down one way or the other but to go get your "mommy" is a new one. He and other players get paid a hefty amount if money to play a game that we used to and sometimes still do play in the sandlots on saturday with friends.
When will we have some real men stand up and be real men and stop acting like little kids. Night clubs, gun toting, drug using, incidents after incident happening, thug looking and acting little boys. If the exec's stop paying them before they play and maybe pay them based on the way the PRODUCE maybe we as fans wouldn't boo them ON and OFF the field !!!
This situation goes to prove how out of whack our society is. Here we have a multi millionaire playing a game and cries about it because he got booed by his own fans. Yet we will sign up young men and women the same age pay them little to nothing to go fight for something that might cost them their lives. You don't see them crying do you?
Vince is a good athelete and the writer is correct you must take the good (income, fame & success) & the bad (media, fans, boo'S )put in the right order and make adjustments. He has to come back and use the feelings as fuel to get the job done. His mon should handle other affairs for Vince. She will only make it worse for him.
Vince Young could kick your ass in two seconds.
Mom needs to stay outta grown mens business. His agent not his mommy should do the talking!
"people expected him to be the next Michael Vick" - Vince Young IS the next Michael Vick on the playing field. Great athlete, strong arm, but not a quarterback who can drop back in the pocket and throw accurately. Young ran a simple offense geared to his athletic ability in college, but it doesn't work in the NFL, and Young hasn't adjusted to that. No wonder he's pouting about that.

Still, as a Broncos fan, I thank them for passing on Jay Cutler and taking Young instead.
Unlike the world of celebrities who go into rehab for a hang nail, average Americans and celebrities suffer from depression.  Contrary to the comments made here it is a real disease and people do take their lives.  It is no wonder people do stupid things instead of coming forward.  That is why their are a number of domestic incidents in this country or people going berserk and killing others.  I am not defending him, but as I commented a couple of days ago, the Titans didn't call the police because he was down after the game, they called because of what was just released today to the press.  He had mental health issues.  Hopefully he takes a leave of absense to get his life back together much like another NFL player did this summer, can't remember his name, or the actress Kirsten Dunst did very quietly a couple months ago.  Mental illness is serious business.    
What is it exactly that is lacking in VY as a NFL QB? His lack of experience? Then even though they pay him bucks, why don't they bring in someone else to play 3 Q and give him some time to develop.
Maybe not as long as the Green Bay situation, but sometime.
I'm a big fan of the POTENTIAL of this guy, but don't have much empathy for a millionair winer. You know, a millionaire makes as much money in one year as most "everyday" people make in their lifetiimes? In VY's case, he makes as much money in one year as 10-15 people combined make in their lifetime. Then he gets another fresh 10-15 peoples' lifetime incomes the next year, and the year after that. Hello? Go out and do some volunteer work with real people,  develop a whole life and then you'll be itching to get back into the shoes of a gifted athlete for the practice sessions and the games.  Let's just be thankful the man isn't off doing against the law extracuricular activities. Come VY, (and endless multimillionaire athletes) put the whole pkg. together. Like in ANY job, someone else is just dying for a chance like yours. It doesn't go on forever.
What is it exactly that is lacking in VY as a NFL QB? His lack of experience? Then even though they pay him bucks, why don't they bring in someone else to play 3 Q and give him some time to develop.
Maybe not as long as the Green Bay situation, but sometime.
I'm a big fan of the POTENTIAL of this guy, but don't have much empathy for a millionair winer. You know, a millionaire makes as much money in one year as most "everyday" people make in their lifetiimes? In VY's case, he makes as much money in one year as 10-15 people combined make in their lifetime. Then he gets another fresh 10-15 peoples' lifetime incomes the next year, and the year after that. Hello? Go out and do some volunteer work with real people,  develop a whole life and then you'll be itching to get back into the shoes of a gifted athlete for the practice sessions and the games.  Let's just be thankful the man isn't off doing against the law extracuricular activities. Come VY, (and endless multimillionaire athletes) put the whole pkg. together. Like in ANY job, someone else is just dying for a chance like yours. It doesn't go on forever.
T.A Williams-You are right on! In the real world, how many of us would get 2 or 3 chances in our jobs? Too many professionals only know 2 things. Either they do what they are paid to do & succeed or they crumble and continue the only way of life they know. Kids growing up these days look to these athletes as a way for fame & or fortune. This mindset of 'I want the money and who needs an education because money does it all' has filtered down to our colleges, high schools and sadly to our youth. Too many owners, coaches and many fans care only about the W regardless of the behavior. Vince & so many others will either grow into successes or they will see the door sooner than later. I have confidence he can succeed; but either he learns from what he has experienced or he will be remembered as a 'who'? I never pity a millionaire who just doesn't get it!
People should back off of Vince Young - if he's suffering from depression, then he's suffering from a medical condition.  Depression is not a character flaw, or a weakness.  Suggesting that Vince Young has a 'bad attitude' or that he needs to quit 'sulking' misses the point.  That's like telling someone they just need to think positively to beat cancer.  Depression (and mental illness in general) can be very debilitating for those who suffer from it - this is coming from someone who knows.
This whole saga is incredibly pathetic to me, and no one seems to be acting responsibly (except perhaps the therapist). VY, Felicia Young, Jeff Fisher, the Titans, the police (and perhaps the therapist) -- all are either acting childishly (VY) or are making statements to the press that they ought not (the rest). In this litigious society, they ought to be more careful. Vince CAN still be a good example to young people, but he needs to learn from this, and he needs to be on his knees (in prayer).


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