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Stav — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:32:35 GMT

He's dead on. If the guy can't respect our anthem, then he ought to go play in some other country. May I suggest a 3rd world country where they would chop your head off for insulting said country??

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Joe, Dallas, Texas — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:12:03 GMT

very well put.

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Derek, DC — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:03:22 GMT

Josh Howard is clearly undereducated (his choice) and is childish (his choice); however, it is oversimplistic to use a knuckle-headed basketball play, Barack Obama, and Oprah to frame the state of race in America. There's opportunity for all, but black men have a much, much steeper hill to climb than white men and often are unable to see the hill from where they start. Josh Howard is a basketball player, nothing less, nothing more.

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Mac McMurtry, Nurnberg, Germany — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:53:49 GMT

If I was the coach or the team owner, I'd make him sing the National Anthem before every team practice.

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Robert Cantner — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:16:17 GMT

This guy has to be one of the biggest insults to this country in 100 years.I think you should go somewhere that you can love, like Cuba. They don't loie the USA either. Please leave and take the millions you made from the country you despise with you.Thanks for your departure.

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Roman, Katy Tx — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:00:28 GMT

What an insult to everything this great country has tried to overcome. But lest we forget, the only reason he is making the news with his comments is because he is an NBA player. If it were me or any other nobody, it wouldn't have made it on the office rumor mill. But it is because of his NBA status that he should bite his tongue and try his best to refrain from mindless comments like that. I am surprised, because of the mindless comments from celebrity atheletes as of late, we don't have an epidemic of atheletes foot in the mouth.

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Brent — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:15:49 GMT

Amen

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Curtis McAdams, Arlington, TX — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:19:35 GMT

Here is Dallas, we all know Josh is an idiot. Personally, I'd love the Mavericks to get rid of him. I'm tired of his antics. I realize his trade value it low, but I believe he's on a downward spiral and it will only get worse. Send him to some basketball wasteland like Vancover.

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G.Diaz, Houston, TX — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:41:35 GMT

Very well put Mike! This guy doesn't know what the difference is between a protest and a parody. There comes a time when the proverbial "chip-on-the-shoulder" must come off our shoulders and realize that we live in a country where freedom, although a basic right, must be nurtured and honored. Let's not take it for granted with these pseudo-statement plights.

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Boler, Seattle, WA — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:45:57 GMT

Sorry but Josh Howard is an idiot. What he needs to do is go play in Europe since he thinks he gets a raw deal in this country. He gives all African Americans a bad name, especially those of us who fought in wars for this country and what it stands for. Take away those $300 sneakers and give that man a tour in Iraq to appreciate what this country is all about.

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Steve, San Antonio — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:58:18 GMT

Howard is a plyer I would HAPPILY applaud going and playing for a foreign team. Traitors like this don't deserve to play in the NBA. Traitors like this should spend ONE DAY with some poor young man or woman who got limbs blown off in Iraq so this spoiled whiney man-child can paly a GAME and make millions.

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BJCS Iowa City, IA — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:10:51 GMT

You know, if he is not happy here - in the country that has made him a millionaire - maybe he should go somewhere else. In some countries a comment like that would land you in jail.

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Dave, Columbus Ohio — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:26:56 GMT

There is something called respect and decorum that most people don't get these days. At a hockey game, many times the Canadian anthem is also played. The same is true for races in the northeast when Canadian competitors are participating. At the Olympics, there are many times when our athletes and fans listen to the anthems of other countries whose politics and actions we don't necessarily agree with are played. Regardless, we should listen quietly if we chose not to sing along. We shouldn't show our lack of class by talking during an anthem or ridiculing it. Show some class and respect. These spoiled brats (athletes and spectators alike) sicken me and only show that they (and not all Americans) don't know how to behave properly.

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Robin Hailey Virginia Beach,Virginia — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:26:59 GMT

I guess that his conscience must be green because he does not have any remorse spending the US dollars that he is so overpaid.

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BJCS — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:37:21 GMT

The more Ithink about this, the more angry I get. Maybe the team owners should end his professional career. If I had tickets to any games, I would burn them before I would go to a game with such an ungrateful player. Imagine the nerve. In a country that has made him. Made him a multi millionaire. It is like spitting in the face of every war veteran. Like spitting in the face of any policeman, fireman, or anyone else that keeps our country and our streets safe for ingrates like him to walk. If we did not have a constitution that gives him freedom of speech, he could wind up in jail, and in some countries executed for comments like that. Maybe he would be happier in one of these places. He owes everyone in this country a HUGE appology. Quite honestly, maybe this should be the end of his American professional career.

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Tyrell Warren, San Francisco, CA — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:39:30 GMT

Couldn't of said it better! It's unfortunate that race comes into the picture but it's perpetuated by the NAACP, ACLU, Black History Month, BET and the black leaders that use race to let their people know that there is no way for them to get ahead, they aren't capable because the establishment is biased. Maybe there is some bias but we'll never get anywhere if the leaders don't start preaching accountability and education, not handouts and finger pointing.

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Rob B. Ft. Lauderdale, FL. — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:10:52 GMT

Mike,
I could have not said it better myself.
He doesn't know how lucky he is to live in the USA.
Josh Howard is really not worth commenting on.
It's a sad case but he's not the only one that dosen't have a clue.
Rob

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yeli, miami, fl — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:18:44 GMT

Ditto!!!!!!!!!!

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Kendrick Olden — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:48:49 GMT

The guy is an idiot it don't matter about your skin color. If you don't like the country what's holding you here?

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Tom Fitzpatrick Fort Mohave, Arizona — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:52:57 GMT

Well said. I took the opportunity to send a similar but much shorter e-mail to the Maverick's Front Office. Josh Howard is a spoiled, inconsiderate and extremely self-centered individual with little regard for the circumstances of life that propelled him to his opportunity to play a kid's game for millions. He could take a lead from LeBron who aptly represented our country at the recent olympics in China. Open up your eyes "big boy" because you live in one of the only countries in the world that afford you the opportunity of grow from poverty to wealth in such a short lifetime. Last comment--you can bet I will not attend a game that Josh Howard plays in and I hope many others will take the opportunity to express their displeasure with his actions by doing the same. Booo!!!!

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R, Denver, CO — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:08:34 GMT

Excellent column, Mike. Every point you make about Howard is a valid one. There is one thing that no one talks about though, and that is why we play the anthem before sporting events to begin with? These are meaningless games, there for entertainment. To me, it sort of cheapens the anthem to play it. We don't play it at movies, plays, numerous other events. What makes sport so special that it receives this treatment? Just a thought.

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john smith — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:11:08 GMT

well said

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Chris — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:06:56 GMT

Typical comments by a typical group that has every thing, but still thinks "the Man" is after them. God, it makes me feel great that there are tens of thousands of "kids" out there defending his right to not say the National Anthem because he's "black"....

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trent — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:16:00 GMT

typical overpaid NBA idiot ... he better take a good look and see which side his bread is buttered on.

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Brandon Rana — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:27:57 GMT

I am a bit stumped by Howard's statement. I don't see what being black has to do with singing the national anthem. I am white. I work for a black man, worked with several black men and women in the Army, and have been friends with many black people. I have never heard any of them say that they were not patriotic. I have never seen any actions to suggest that they were not patriotic. I don't understand what being black has to do with it.

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Chris Spence, Va. Beach, Va. — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:30:26 GMT

Mike, I agree with you 1000% not 100. Josh Howard should get on his kness and thank God and this country for his fortunes because God gave him the fortitude and the United Stated gave him the opportunity. I am Black ( African American ) and he does not speak for me or my kids. He is a jackass in every sense of the word. As a matter of fact, his antics should be reprimanded by Mark Cuban. I understand freedom of speech, but he knowth not what he speaks, maybe he was high in his marijuana.

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abdel nogueras, san juan, puerto rico — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:47:57 GMT

First about the article it's true the fact that only in the united states somebody can do something like that and most likely nothing will happend to him because I bet you if he were cuban or russian he'll be dead by now. Second if he's going by ethnicy what about all the hispanic people that live and have serve to the united state in combat i.e. Iraq, Afghanistan like myself that stand up in attention every time the anthem is played been honest before getting in the military I never though this would be a serious thing but after you spend a couple of years serving a nation that is giving you the freedom to do whatever you want you start to respecting all.

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T. Adams — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:11:32 GMT

I was a huge Howard fan... now i could care less.. I hope the mavs dump him...

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John Galt — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:12:07 GMT

Yes.

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Andrew T., Denver, CO — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:06:14 GMT

Wow Mike. This is the most intelligent and rational piece of writing I have read in a while. I personally think you have hit many nails on the head, and I am actually Howard has his comments publicized because the incident provoked this relevant social commentary. Thanks to his so called friend who threw him under the bus. I wish writers in other fields were as open and honest as you have been in this piece.

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Jane Doe — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:09:46 GMT

Well said, well said. I appreciate your always balanced reporting (except for when you laud teams I hate). I am African American (not sure how relevant that is) and not particularly patriotic but abhor that Josh Howard continues to use the freedom many of our ancestors dies to achieve to peddle his ignorance. It's not as if this is his first such gaffe, so he gets no free pass with this stupid off-the-cuff remark which, if he has an agenda to advance, he does with no effect. Thank you for being brave enough to draw attention to this and speak to it intelligently without making excuses for the "poor little black kid". Mr. Howard is no such thing. He ought to a flag-waving, anthem-singing conservative for as large a piece of the American Dream as he has obtained.

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Mark, Wilder, VT — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:19:32 GMT

Josh Howard is not a "decent guy". He is a spoiled, bigoted coward who enjoys freedom that far better men have given him, and goes to great lengths to assure us he appreciates none of it. Maybe next time he drag races, he can have an accident and lose one or both legs, and he can be put in a hospital bed next to someone who lost a limb fighting for his freedom, instead of through an act of dangerous, irresponsible stupidity. Then, it would not be so much a tragedy, as a case of getting what one deserves.

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Shawn Krall Olympia Wash — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:16:23 GMT

Josh Howard. Get the hell out of this country. Now!

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Rick Venable, Panama City, Florida — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:43:12 GMT

Well put Mike. As a retired member of the US Air Force I have been to some of the other countries around this world and in most of them he would be arrested for showing that kind of disrespect to their flag. Believe me, these countries don't offer even half the opportunity the United States does.

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Rich, Orange, CA — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:36:39 GMT

Josh Howard in my opinion one of the most disrespectful basketball players in the league right now. He should be fined by the NBA for saying such hurtful comments. I am of Asian decent and I proud to live in America and say this is my country.

Get a clue Josh before your whole career is ruined. I honestly don't think he is worthy to play for a classy team like the Mavericks.

Cuban- Get rid of this headcase

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Bolivar Atanasio — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:14:36 GMT

Nuff Said!

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any — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:00:09 GMT

Just to let you know Josh didn't grow up in the "hood". He grew up in a nice middle class town. Kernersville NC.

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Dennis Winston Killeen TX — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:47:46 GMT

I am a retire soldier who has put his life on the line for this country many of times. We have BLACK soldiers fighting and dying in two wars so MR. Howard can play ball and not be threaten or harm by terrorist. We had black and white people marched for BLACK Americans civil RIGHTS. In 2008 history was made when we have the FIRST BLACK MAN running for President. I do not know what college MR. Howard went too, I just hope like HELL my son and daughter do not attend that school because MR. Howard has learn nothing. I am a BLACK MAN married to a BLACK woman.

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Eric — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:32:12 GMT

Are you really going to criticize a black person for not respecting a song written by a slave owner? Are you serious? What's next, are you going to demand that because he's rich he should burn a cross in his yard, or display a confederate flag. Those things are also apart of America the beautiful where lots of opportunity and money can be had. And why shouldn't he "babble" nonsense? The celebration of war,which is all that song represents, is nonsense.

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Dave Las Vegas NV — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:36:47 GMT

I agree wholeheartedly with Mike. If you don't respect the country that promotes opportunity and that allows you to be rich and famous for playing a "game" ...then go live somewhere else. As a matter of fact, why don't you go play in a European league somewhere or start a league in Africa.

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L Smihth — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:02:01 GMT

I agree with you on some points in this article but disagree on some so I'll explain. I don't know if JH fully developed the point he was trying to make because he was, after all, at a touch football game. He may not have (and this is conjecture)really felt compelled to fully outline his position for any number of reasons. Time/place being chief among those.

But to your points about the opportunities he has and those from which he has benefiited, I can easily understand why a millionaire hoopster could say and believe what he did and does. It's because why does America as it exits today even exist? Because of a few hundred years of free labor in our own country and de facto free or incredibly cheap labor in ohter countries which we have perpetuated by varying degrees of force, coercion, and sabotage.

How many of today's fortunes had their roots in the slave trade. Insurance, Banking, Agriculture, Real Estate, Food Distribution to name a few. These fortunes were made on our backs and the backs of darker skinned people around the world and this continues to this day (see Chocolate, Diamonds, and Rubber).

So in that context, one of systematic and enduring exploitation, what difference does it make if JH is benefitting today if JH is making millions? That's a pittance compared to the billions and maybe even a trillion dollars earned directly or indirectly off the backs of Blacks/Browns the world over?

That could have been the point he would have made but I don't want to put words in his mouth.

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mike, dallas, texas — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:04:23 GMT

Small wonder the whole story isn't being told, such as Howard chanting Obama '08 at the end of his rant. NBC strikes again.

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Scott, Houston, TX — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:12:24 GMT

While I count my blessings that I live in a country where Josh Howard can make such comments, I truly hope that Mark Cuban and the rest of the NBA team owners realize what damage they do to their images by keeping players like this on their rosters. What a disgrace - to all Americans.

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Shawn, Denver, Colorado — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:22:25 GMT

Exactly!

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Marco, Chatham NJ — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:41:47 GMT

I don't care whatkind of guy josh Howard is. Him saying that is the most innappropriate and ignorant things I've ever heard someone say. While he plays a GAME for millions a year, his brothers are overseas getting killed for pennies so he can live in a country where he is aloud to say what he did. It breaks my heart that he feels that way. I hope more black people don't. Love it or leave it baby. This is America and I am proud to be an American.

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Perry — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:22:52 GMT

Wow, you can't put any P.R. lipstick on that pig (Josh Howard) to make this one go away - Mr. Cuban. I expect that Mr. Stern should probably suspend the pig for ten games for being a total moron. Way to go NBA you're backsliding again into ghetto ball and ghetto mentality. Don't expect me to support the product. One gigantic BOOOOOOOOOO..

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Don, New York, NY — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:27:31 GMT

Good for you, Mike. Yet, I have no idea who this clown is. Who is Josh Howard?

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Ghen S. San Francisco, CA — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:48:38 GMT

What an ingrate! Insensitive. Mindless. Immature person, not to say a professional basketball player at that. Hope the NBA executives do something about this type of actions from their players.

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Parnell X. McGee II Denver,CO. — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:31:51 GMT

What a idiot. No class whatsoever.

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Kim Perkins — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:25:47 GMT

You have the admire the arrogance of this country! After enslaving blacks and taking the land and language from Indians, the good ole USA never ceases to tell both races to "love your country." I can see the point. I mean, yes, things have changed. But memories linger. But my advice would be to not judge a man til you have walked a mile in his moccassins. In this country''s wars, Blacks and Indians have bled for the red, white and blue while many Caucasians (like our current President) have refused to do so. But "W" will salute the flag in a heartbeat. I suppose it is more important these days to salute the flag than to defend it. Whatevah. Anyway, I know Howard didn't go to war, but I bet five bucks that if there was a draft, and he was called, that his daddy wouldn't have gotten him off the hook and got him a nice cush job defending Texas while he saluted the flag instead of defending it.

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Dwayne G. — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:57:16 GMT

Josh Howard will be a "marked man" in every NBA arena in this great country called the USA! What he did has to be one of the highest forms of STUPIDITY that there is! Mark Cuban doesn't seem to be handling this situation too well either. I think a lot people have lost respect for him, not to mention nucklehead Howard, who I have lost ALL respect for!!

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BLACK MAN PGH PA — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:03:52 GMT

I APPLAUD JOSH HOWARD FOR HIS STATEMENT. THERE IS STILL RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY;HENCE THE DISPARITY IN THE PRISON POPULATION, PAYSCALE FOR BLACKS COMPARED TO WHITES. KUDOS JOSH HOWARD KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

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Sparklemahn, Isla Vista, CA — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:22:42 GMT

Mike: you hit the nail on the head! Josh Howard will lose a whole lot of love for his dumber than dung comment. Smoking herbs are one thing, but denigrating the national anthem BECAUSE you are an African-AMERICAN is jsut plain suicide for a public figure. Get ready for cups of ice to be thrown at you, as well as many slurs and negative comments, Josh. In a way, you deserve it!

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Joshua — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:13:31 GMT

Well said. You said it perfectly. Joshn is still young and have more phases in life to go through. Some people say the wrong thing to make a statement as if they don't care, when they are really hurting inside. Josh loves America. He knows he is a blessed man in a bless United States. He's probably a very giving guy and it hurts him because he cares so much for people and their opinions. We have backward ways of doing things at times. We are all human. We will recover from his statement. He's an honest man- give him credit for that.

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Fred Groenke — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:36:13 GMT

I'm not sure about the rest of America but I'm getting sick and tired of hearing,I don't do this or that because I'm black". I'd love to hear what Dr.Bill Cosby and Gen. Colin Powell have to say about this subject. I'm guessing that they would have some pretty strong statements about Mr.Howard's beliefs and actions.

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Cal — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:26:24 GMT

Walk in his shoes, from birth to now. Then comment from that perspective. The awesome tendency is to start the justice or justifiable clock when it's convenient. Have you ever tried to pick something up in a swimming pool. The water bends the light, but the object is still the object. Having said that, I understand why you have your opinion and I respect that.

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Raymond Holder — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:01:08 GMT

Sometimes we get to witness the most arrogant,ignorant comments ever uttered because we live in the instant communication age. This man's commentary was neither thought out nor well spoken. The only reason it makes any impact at all is because he can put a ball through a net better than most. Shame on us for giving ignorance an audience.

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Terry T. Wiggins, Cincinnati, Ohio — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:24:16 GMT

Ok, Mike, Josh is immature and naive, but much more sophisticated than you give him credit. It is obvious that you are a white, middle-to-upper-class pundit that know little about the black social pyschic. I believe that you are an intelligent man. To gather some insight for yourself, please read the report(survey) put out recently by the researchers at Stanford U. concerning the racial bias and attitudes of whites in America toward blacks and the linking of voter attitudes toward Senator Barack Obama, and apply this to Josh Howard, if you understand.

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Dave, Big Pine Key, FL — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:06:10 GMT

I have more of a problem with Mike statements then I do with the spolied basketball player.

I am so tired of people repeating the line that America is the land of opportunity, that anyone can make it if they try, etc., etc. Yes, Josh is probably an illiterate that if not for the NBA would be sweeping up somewhere, or practising his only important line of the day, "would you like fires with that?" But this notion that the American dream exists in pure nonsense. This dream is realized for only a small fraction of us; the vast majority have no american dream, nor will acsend to a higher socio/economic class than that to which they were born. To demonstrate that America is a boon for blacks by citing the success of a handful is sheer stupidity. Take a ride through Detroit sometime Mike. Or D.C., then come back and tell me about opportunity.
You want to lecture Josh? than do so with credible arguments, like character, integrity, compassion, empathy, and just plain being nice.

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Mike B., Olympia, Wash. — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:03:56 GMT

If you value individualism and independence, why should you judge? Since your grandfather could vote, drink from any fountain he pleased and go to the college of his choice while his forbears could not, he might have some righteous resentment you have no empathy for. He had to become an NBA star to become worthy of your notice. Any jerk can type. Maybe he can't sing.

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Gina Summers, Dover, DE — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:06:17 GMT

As an African American Female, I am appalled at Josh Howards comments. He does not represent the African American people and never will. He obviously knows nothing about the history of this great country and promiment african americans that contribute to it. I'm proud to be an american and someone should give this moron a clue for making such as asinine comment.
He should offer an apology to all americans.

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hank — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:10:38 GMT

Let me just correct you on a few points:

Josh Howard feels as do many other young black men in America, disenfranchised. Hell, we were never really franchised in the first place. You have several flaws in your logic. Number one being, the NBA is a international conglomerate that makes BILLIONS of its "products" namely players.

It's not the "greatest job in the world unless you consider running 10-15 miles in all out sprint matching up physically against somebody who you weight and size. Then triple the typical college basketball season and the hidden fact that by the end of training camp, half these guys are playing with strains, broken limbs and getting treatment around the clock,etc. Trust me, it is not as you say, "great".

These guys do this because they want money but let's break down the money angle of it too. If you are in the top income bracket of the U.S. You are getting taxed at 33-35%, so $1,000,000 is really $700k or less, then there is your agent's %10 you are at around $600k for every million you sign for. Then, silly fans expect you to half gazillions of dollars and that you can save it all, but honestly Open Mike, where are you going to live if you are a multimillionaire? In the hood? Really? Safely? Enter the million dollar house. I will concede Mike Tyson was and is SPECIAL, what with tigers and all, but you get my point. And you have to drive a certain vehicle of better, at least $35000 and up.

So considering that most guys on these sports teams are living beyond their means at the onset of their careers, its a no-win situation that I nor should anyone else really envy. These guys are being paid millions of dollars (the top 3 guys per team), but that doesn't mean they will have anything to show for it at the end of the day.65% of NBA players are broke at the end of five years Mike. Dream job?

Now on to the black issue. I wish that White people as a whole would stop trying to treat other ethnicities as if we are strange group of people that are telepathically linked or share common philosophies.

Speaking in this case as an African American male, I am not especially impressed with Josh Howard's actions nor do I defend him or his words. However, I understand the LOGIC behind his verbiage and behavior. First, most African American men have what I refer to as immaturity. It's not racism. The immature black man is fascinated by shiny things like rims, and microphones, and glossy lipstick on women, cars, bling-bling and so forth just like babies with a rattle. I can be silly and PLAY with these things, but I can also discern between fantasy and reality. Some people can not tell the difference between the two..........

The mindset that would publicly announce "I'm black" is attention wanting and attention getting. Immaturity. Let's not lump all black men into this though, just like I should not lump all children snatching cannibalistic crimes in with white men. Just because 99% of serial killers are white males, should I avoid them entirely? This imperialistic way of judging other cultures does not imply intelligence or fairness, or good moral judgement in the least sense. I have to tell you that white america has one way of viewing the world and everybody else sees it differently.
Like have you noticed or tried to observe that even the smallest critique of white america gets immediately lambasted and fired upon as ridiculous? Blacks are the same way. But white people control the media. But in my opinion, black people as a whole group need psychological help and guidance. So to sum up my entirely too long tirade: Josh Howard is immature, not unpatriotic or racist. If he doesn't like America, he probably can afford to leave and retire comfortably anywhere he wants. He's still here so there's something here he likes. What, who knows, and white society needs to stop associating us together unless they would like to be publicly judged the same exact way. Grow up.

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Jamal Washington — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:59:40 GMT

If more people ‘fessed up, we wouldn’t have to spend billions of dollars a year and ruin thousands of lives for the “crime” of smoking an herb that has never caused a documented death through overdose, a drug that was outlawed for no good reason to start with.
Nice opinion - sounds like you're in love with the herb yourself Mr. Celizic

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American in Scottsdale — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:54:15 GMT

A guess is eventhough his "brother" Dwight Howard went to the Olympics to help win a gold medal, perhaps Josh wasn't chosen because - even then - he didn't know the words to the U.S. National Anthem, but the excuse "I'm Black"? Lame, Josh, lame.

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Joe Leroux — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:59:21 GMT

He is welcome to live in a different country and see what opportunities are available elsewhere. If he really feels that there are some issues in this country (and, of course, there are) he could use his celebrity and money to help fix those issues instead of making a fool of himself. Black, white or otherwise - we all have a choice to make in regards to the opportunities that come our way and how we conduct ourselves in front of others. He made a bad choice and maybe the feedback he got from this issue will serve as the wake up call he needs.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

john bro — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:33:18 GMT

I dont feel insulted by what Josh Howard said on youtube, in fact, let me say that i dont celebrate the fourth of July because, I as a black man living in america because im not truly free! there is no independence for me, so why celebrate! Walk a mile in our shoes in see if you feel the same!

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Ron, Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:53:13 GMT

When did Mike Celizic get elected to speak for all Americans?? So Mike thinks Josh is biting the hand that feeds a little. That doesn't mean he's insulted a nation, and Mike by no means has the authority to say so. Did the Youtube video continue for Josh to explain himself on why he doesn't do the national anthem? If not, why not do an article with an interview with him to find out vs. calling him out and thinking the worst without knowing the facts? Sounds like the press....

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Cel — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:51:04 GMT

He has the right to not like the national anthem and say it. The america you see and the america he sees and has problems with is different. You are not black and those words on the anthem may not resignate to him the way it does to you. He is entitled to speak his mind also. You may not agree and that is okay also. Is his character as a decent person on trial with you. Do you know him personally. Intelligent people can agree to disagree and respect the other as a person. Try it some time. Just because you have a voice/column doesnt mean others agree with you 100% either.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Jay, Dallas, TX — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:02:29 GMT

Mr. Celizic, It is clear you are just like the multitude of white people in america who feel because a few (and I mean few) black people have broken through major barriers that the barriers do not exist. Oprah herself speaks of many injustices she has endured thanks to the continuous prejudices in this country. I'm sorry you didn't have the blessing of grow up with racism in your face everyday. Being white has given you this smug white on life attitude. It is hard for Barrack, Oprah, black people of Jasper, TX, and all other black people in this country everyday. We have to dismiss the many points of racism we face daily just to survive and achieve. Keep your back alley comments to yourself when it comes to any black person’s resentment of this country and what it represents. We have to fight for every inch of what we have and all you have to do is walk through the front door and know America is on your side. Yes, black people are successful because we are successful but do not think for a minute we didn't have to fight through many unnecessary obstacles to get there. And believe me, more obstacles than you would every see or can endure. I admire his fearless statement and I admire why. Even if I do not admire many other things Mr. Howard has done or said. But it is not your place or right to judge him because it clearly shows you are either a racist yourself or just plain ignorant.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Evan, Atlanta, Georgia — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:06:35 GMT

I see people hiding behind their ethnicity all the time. How many people run around with Obama for Change shirts that don't know the finer points of his campaign platform? The truth is that there is a ton of ignorance out there. At least Josh Howard is a guy that provides me some entertainment by having the skills to play pro basketball. Let this kid insult the country and have his opinion. I watch sports to see slam dunks and close games. The fact that some athletes are dunderheads shouldn't shock anyone.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Kim MItchell, Alamogordo NM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:53:37 GMT

Thank you very much for the article. Being a veteran of 24 years, i felt like he spat on us veterans who fought for the freedoms we have. Maybe Josh should don a uniform and do a tour in Iraq, then get back with me.
Mitch

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Enought with the rhetoric!!! — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:14:31 GMT

Kim Perkins...you are a moron...plain and simple. Memories linger??? PLEASE!!! Josh Howard was born in the '80's...what MEMORIES is he trying to get over??? Don't even give me that crap about lots of whites refusing to serve in the military either. The military is primarily white and millions (like me by the way) have proudly served and will continue to do so!!! Now admit it...your an Obama supporter...aren't you???

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Jim from Ohio — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:54:06 GMT

Josh Howard is a full fledge jerk...I'm glad I don't watch the NBA League of Thugs

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Tony TuSaucey, San Diego,CA — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:08:49 GMT

Stop hating on JH people! It's a free country! He can say what he wants wheather it pisses people off or not. Thats why so many have died for this country and its why I defend it, for the many freedoms we have and one of them is speech.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

AJ Davis, Wash, DC — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:34:54 GMT

How does Josh Howard's comments relate to you as a veteran? He chose basketball - you chose the military. There is no draft today - so shut up!
I have no sympathy for you if you went Iraq - it goes with the territory. In this country, white America made NBA players/sports a wealthy career. Now that many blacks are taking advantage of this career/system, it is a problem. Since when did Bob Cousy or Larry Bird win a MENSA award. Who said that athletes had to be eggheads. They get paid to be athletes, not operate on an aneurysm as I do. So to all of you - live with the system that white America created!! If you feel it is an insult to you then do not support him, just as he wishes not support you or the anthem. If he made 40K instead of millions we would not be having this discussion.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

B Lancaster — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:27:41 GMT

Mike,
Good essay. It's about what 'everyone else' considers respect. What Howard did was inexcusable. This comes from a guy born in 1951, came of age in the 60's and has learned that this country can move in the wrong direction.

I have been until this year doing my 'community service' (not really but it sometimes seems like it)by being a soccer referee. Local recreation leagues (for free) up to high school (losing money due to high gas prices) in the heart of the bible belt / crotch of false patriotism. Protocol deems that the referee and assistant referees stand together and face the flag during the playing of the national anthem. This I do. However, I do not place my hand over my heart nor look at the flag during this ceremony. This is my protest. It's about the way I have seen my country disregard even the constitutionally procted liberties of it's own citizens. I've never had anyone say a word to me about my perceived disrespect. Especially not from the spectators, at least two-thirds of whom are laughing and talking during this totally symbolic ritual.

It's one thing to have a "private" demonstration but to bring this into the national spotlight is at the very least STUPID. Especially when you depend on the collective opinion of the masses to continue to suck every last nickel you can from the "American Dream". You made some good points too.

B Lancaster
Western Kentucky

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

Matt McDonald St louis, MO — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:41:16 GMT

Hey Howard, America, Love or Leave it! don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

d haber — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:03:59 GMT

people blowing this ish way out of proportion.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

RONNY, F.V., CA — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:46:22 GMT

I LOVE TO PLAY AND WATCH BASKETBALL, ESPECIALLY, THE NBA. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT TALENTED ENOUGH TO PLAY AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL. SO MAYBE NEXT TIME I'M AT A NBA GAME, ESPECIALLY; A GAME IN WHICH JOSH HOWARD IS PLAYING, I SHOULD "PROTEST" THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BECAUSE I CAN'T PARTICIPATE BY PLAYING IN THE GAME ITSELF.....DUMB DOES AS AS ONE SEES DOING DUMB.

Howard insults all Americans, black and white

J Myles, Atlanta,GA — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:57:41 GMT

By no means do I support Josh Howard's behavior, but statements like these: "explain to me how a man with African heritage is running for President. And explain how Oprah Winfrey is one of the most powerful opinion molders in the country. Then tell me how a black woman got to be Secretary of State, a job she took over from a black man", show apathy and misunderstanding of people like you. Just because their are a handful of black people that have attained success does not mean one should ignore inequalities that all black people still experience in this country. There are severe inequalities, from income, education, conviction rates, infant mortality, and even life expectancy. Every time I read an article and someone makes this type of statement, it reminds me of why racism will always be synonymous with America.