Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

kent kolegue — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:34:53 GMT

This is the most racist column I have read. Why do you think that just because a person in black that he is automatically the best qualified candidate. Obviously, to most people but not to you the best overall candidate receives the job. Where is the outcry to get more whites playing NBA basketball or NFL football?
If Barkley were white would he say that Chizik should gotten the job?

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:42:16 GMT

Who cares, another black person playing the race card because they didn't get the job, nothing new. Chizik at least coached a BCS conference team and has history at Auburn as a defensive coordinator, so of course they hired him. What's racist is Barkley saying he would only be part of a committee if it hired a black coach, I would kick him off the committee too, even if I had planned on hiring a black coach.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

steve — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:47:30 GMT

You, sir, are correct. To say we are a color-blind society, or even close, is laughable.

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dennis, florissant ,co. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:16:47 GMT

I think Charles may be right.He now knows how i feel about the presidential election,the man with the most experience did not get the job.I thought this was about race also,stop your whining Charles.

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Kyle — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:24:30 GMT

Also to be noted is that Chizik's specialty is defense, while Auburn is desperate for someone who can put an offense on the field.

The sad truth is that race very likely played a part in the decision, but if you ask the folks at Auburn about it they will deny it and think they they are telling the truth. They will have rationalized several very good reasons not to hire Mr. Gill, and they will all relate to some matter that can't be objectively judged (e.g., he wasn't a good fit for Auburn or some such).

Folks in the south have advanced in race relations, but I am afraid the advance has been limited to naming some street in town after MLK and then prefacing their racist statements with the phrase "I'm not a racist or anything but . . .." Be warned, if you ever hear that phrase, you are about to hear a racist comment that will make your hair curl.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Jerry S. Chicago — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:34:09 GMT

I disagree with your argument. The MAC is barely Divsion I versus the Big 12. Second, Chizik was already highly successful at Auburn before. He knows the adminstration, the culture, the tradition, etc. Chizik was a safe pick because he won and he did it at Auburn and Texas. Chizik is a known quantity at Auburn specifically. The racist line is tired.

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John — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:46:41 GMT

Barkley's a punk though. Who has absolutely no respect. He played like a punk in the NBA, has a serious gambling problem, and is just looking for news. Begging to be in the news. Since when does the public decide who should be their coach? It appears by your standards that they had no choice since he was black, he would be the coach.

Let Gill come out and say that. Let him state that for the record. Who needs a punk like Barkley stating that? Better yet, who needs a writer supporting it?

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Mark — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:46:52 GMT

You are a stupid racist pig. This is what being a racist is all about when you state something like this. Why would Barkley state that he would serve as long as they hired a black person... What if this was in reverse and I said that I would serve on the committee as long as they hired a white person... You are an idiot...

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Justin, Alameda, Ca — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:25:30 GMT

Mike-
Bravo to you for pointing this out. Speaking as a white football fan I could care less who coaches my team as long as they are of good character and when football games. It's unbelievable that in 2008 we're still discriminating in such a blatant and public way. As a resident of the Bay Area I'd love to see Gill take over for a certain struggling program(Cal).

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

guy — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:30:19 GMT

Why's everything got to be about race????

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Brad Cummings — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:35:55 GMT

Boycott against black coaches in Div.1? How about a boycott against Div. 1 schools by all minority athletes next season--a different tune shall be sung.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

chris,albertville,al. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:38:56 GMT

its a free country,you can hire anybody you want to. barkley is the racist

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Chris, Raleigh NC — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:13:20 GMT

Being black doesn't mean one is qualified to be a president, a football coach or anything else (nor does it mean one isn't qualified). I get so tired of reading drivel like this (Celizic is an artist when it comes to the medium of drivel). Weren't affirmative action programs found to be unconstitutional? Maybe Celizic needs to consider resigning from his position as an NBCSports.com "contributor" (isn't that term ironic?) so a black writer can write in his space. I think he (Celizic) was hired only because he is white. I'm not saying Chizik was hired over Gill because of race because I don't know.....and guess what? Celizic (and Barkley) don't know that either. To make such accusation without proof demonstrates the racist attitudes of both. I agree that Turner Gill has done an excellent job at Buffalo and that Chizik has a less-than-stellar record at Iowa State but that doesn’t mean the decision to hire Chizik was based solely (or even in partly) on race. For Celizic and Barkley to make such an accusation just demonstrates their ignorance. For Barkley to condition his participation on a basketball coach selection committee on the hiring of a black coach also speaks volumes about his racist attitudes. Why wouldn't he consider qualified candidates with a "melanin deficiency" (as if that is some sort of disability to being an effective coach)? What about all of the other recent college football hires? Were those all motivated by race also? No need to have proof, let's just sling accusations. While we're at it, let's also accuse the decision makers of being pedophiles.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Drama, Pasadena, CA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:19:15 GMT

There is an obvious answer. The alumni and other donors have a lot of say in what a college does. At the very least the colleges feel that their donors will be happier with a white coach. Luckily, this sort of thing does not seem to enter when choosing a president; of course Obama was also talented in raising money.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

nat irvin, louisville, ky — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:20:10 GMT

Mike,

You are right but I'd rather have the black president rather than more black football coach. In fact, I'd be happy if we had far fewer black athletes....hey, make them all white. I'd rather have scientists, teachers, technologists, bioethicists...

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Dan, Little Rock, Ar — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:32:54 GMT

Thats America

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Beth, Starkville, MS — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:38:27 GMT

It makes me sick to say it, but I've lived down here long enough to know, it IS about race; just not in the way you think. It's not that Turner Gill is black...it's that his wife is white. And ignorant people in the South STILL can't accept the idea of interracial marriage (in spite of its prevalance). If Gill's wife was black it wouldn't be an issue; by the same token if he were white and his wife black it WOULD be. We still have a long, LONG way to go in this country; hey, I lived long enough to see an African American president, there's still hope!

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Sean Ollech San Antonio, TX — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:08:16 GMT

"In FBS institutions, this includes 92.5 percent of the presidents, 87.5 percent of the athletics directors, 92.6 percent of the faculty athletics reps, 83.3 percent of the faculty and 100 percent of the conference commissioners."

How many are women Mr. Celizic? Isn't it sexist if there are no female head coaches in the BCS? Women make up more then 50 percent of the population, and yet they have exactly 0 coaching positions.

Why are we so concerned about racism and not sexism? How many head coaches are Jewish?

If Mr. Celizic is so concerned about the plight of the black man he should resign his position immediately and select a black man as his replacement. Are you a racist? It's easy to point fingers when it isn't your job you are talking about.

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Mike Stevers — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:21:37 GMT

Turner Gill will get hired at a major university. Auburn has a right to hire who it pleases. These major football schools only want to win. If they thought Turner Gill was the man to bring them to the promise land; he would have gotten the job. The problem is there hasn't been a Black Knute Rockne, Woody Hayes, or Bear Bryant yet. Apologies to Eddie Robinson. By the way I thought we elected a liberal democrat for president. Race might have played a role in this hiring but we will never know.

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Rick Hamrick, Denver, CO — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:02:52 GMT

I think you nailed this one, Celizic, right down to the real reasons big-time schools, particularly in the south, are afraid to hire black coaches.

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Al Matthews — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:23:07 GMT

Well said.!!!!! The numbers speak for themself.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Greg Bixler Des Moines, Iowa — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:30:05 GMT

As an ISU fan I agree, and frankly Turner Gill should have gotten the job at Auburn based on merit alone. How well you tan has nothing to do with coaching. I hope Mr. Gill would also look at coming to Ames as coach of the Cyclones if nothing else to make up for all those years of grief he caused us while he played for Nebraska. Oh and to the A.D. at ISU and the others who threw coach Mac under the bus two years ago (I TOLD YOU SO) good luck Dan where ever you are.

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Ray, Bangor PA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:34:40 GMT

Nick Saban owns Alabama. Auburn did Gill a favor.
Syracuse would've been a better fit for Gill.

Thanks

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Walt D, Kokomo, Indiana — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:09:34 GMT

Barkley is right on. The facts clearly demonstrate they selected a white coach with less of a good track record then Gill, a black coach, with an outstanding track record as a coach in football. Shame! Shame! Shame on Auburn.

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shelly williams — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:30:42 GMT

Barkley thinks everything has to do with race.

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Adam, St. Pete, Fl — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:31:27 GMT

This is race baiting at it's worst, perhaps he had a better interview and ties to the school. You use the same tired argument that white employees use when a black applicant gets hired over a white applicant.

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Mike, Birmingham Alabama — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:35:09 GMT

I dont think this was a race driven hire. It was a stupid hire though. Not only did Turner Gill have a better resume than Chizik in my opinion... But so did Gary Patterson, Gary Hoke, Derek Dooley, and Jim Grobe.

I do feel bad for Chizik and his family though. He is getting destroyed by the media and the Auburn fans(I am an alabama fan). I think he has a monumental uphill battle ahead of him. And all this bad publicity is only going to hurt him and his chances.

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David Teach, Buffalo, New York — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:55:41 GMT

As much as I'd like to see Mr. Gill succeed and further his career, we like him an awful lot where he is...

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Cedric Chester — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:03:57 GMT

I am a member of a NCAA National Championship team. We had a Cinderella season to win the title. Our coaches were professional material and many went on to coach in the NFL but those coaches exploited the black players and share little connection to these players who help put the school on the map and reaped the financial benefit from a bowl game. Colleges all over the nation have closed their eyes ignored black coaching talent. We have a long way to go to wash out racism but it is easy to hate and ignore but it take courage to stand up and Mr. Barkley as well as the writer showed their courage today... Kudos

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

William Johnson, Jacksonville, Florida — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:39:47 GMT

A coach should be hired based on their resume and not their color. Auburn should not hire a coach becasue he is black or white. There are only three black coaches in top level NCAA football that is a shame but look at the win loss records of the black coaches we have had. Ty Willinham did nothing but fail at Washington after a lack luster stint at Notre Dame, Sylvester Croon failed at Mississippi State, Miami's black coach is just above .500 winning percentage. These are not good resume boosters for hiring a coach based on the fact he is black.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Brian, Louisville, KY — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:39:54 GMT

You must be joking! Why aren't you complaining about the fact that there aren't enough black kickers and punters? Why aren't you complaining about the fact that there aren't enough white tailbacks? I have an idea...Let Auburn decide who they want for their coach and why! If they want someone because they were part of the program when Auburn put up a flawless season, then let them. If racism was so rampant in the decisions, do you really think Sylvester Croom would have had a job in MISSISSIPPI?!?! Being from MS, I know a LOT of State fans and they all loved him last year, but if you lose the Egg Bowl that bad, you're out.

Do you think it was racist to get rid of a winning coach like Tuberville? It should be obvious by that action that winning percentage is not all Auburn is looking at. He beat Bama the last 6 years - lose 1 year and you're done?

If you want to start throwing the race card for coaches, we should throw it for players and get more white players on the field. Sounds dumb right?!?! That's because it is - the coach makes the decisions on who plays - based on whatever he decides. Same with the school deciding who coaches.

If racism was such a large part of it, don't you think more white players would be on the field?
Race-baiting is ignorance manifested through writing and speech.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

James, Cincinnati, OH — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:42:41 GMT

Well said! And for those of you out there that say..."There's no racism, we have a Black president"...that's totally illogical! That's like saying, "There's no more cancer...we've found a cure for SKIN cancer"! In other, there's still work to do to eradicate the "cancer" of racism! Good for you Sir Charles and Mr. Celizic!

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Matt, Lincoln, Nebraska — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:09:44 GMT

I have to admit, I love sports and i especially love college football. Turner Gill is a hero in our state and will always be thought of as a Husker. We loved him as a player, coach, and member of our community and we were sad to lose him. He has done a magnificent job at Buffalo (no surprise to all in Husker Nation) and should be considered a top coaching prospect at this point. However, i am so sick and tired of people making the comment that there are only 3 black coaches out of 119 in division 1 and saying that it's racism! It's almost like saying there are not enough white point guards in the NBA and that each team should have a mandatory "5 white guys" draft clause before they can sign a player of color! People, it's not about what color you are, it's about your ability to coach, recruit, teach the game, mentor, represent the community and so many other things. Now i do agree that Turner Gill should have gotten the job because he is deserving and fits all the criteria i mentioned before; he was interviewed, and he was not chosen, they went another direction and just because they didnt choose Turner doesn't mean that their motives had anything to do with being racist. It's funny to me that when these arguments are being made it always seems to be about African-Americans being the victims of racisim (the 3 out of 119 again!)....why aren't we making the same case for Mexican-American coaches, or Native-American coaches, or Asian-American coaches if it is question of racism? The fact is, there are a lot of qualified candidates for all types of jobs and in the end someone will win. Turner Gill is a fantastic coach and will get his shot at a big time program because he is 1) A great coach 2) A great teacher 3) A great person 4) A great recruiter 5) A great communicator and many other reasons..........NOT because he is black!

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Rick, NC — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:21:43 GMT

Chizik had a horrible record as a head coach...may have been a great coordiantor but Gill has demonstrated real head coaching bona fides...it is Alabama, home to pin heads like Senator Shelby...

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Gary — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:36:51 GMT

Barkley is and has always been an idiot; doesn't mean what he is saying doesn't contain truth, just that he's an idiot. I hope he runs for Governor of Alabama, so the people here can show him, by our votes, just what we think of him, and that is very, very little.
Gill had a better record, Chiclet had coached at the Barn before. Other than Ty Willingham and Gill, what black coaches have been successful in cfb? It's all about winning, and don't think for a second most colleges won't jump at a chance to hire a winning coach, regardless of color.
I'm not saying race didn't play a part; there was racism in the football program at the Barn earlier this year (why Franklin was fired), and having witnessed the shenanigans of the BOT /AD in the past (jetgate), it would not surprise me in the least. But, even if it was absolutely false and nowhere near the truth, Barkley would say it anyway because he, in fact, is the consummate racist...and a blowhard to boot.

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Tim Hetrick, Alliance, Ohio — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:06:38 GMT

Of course this is something racial. It is only human to hire and fire people by the way they make you feel. But the apparent fact that alumni search committees and and college administrations don't seem to be able to get past their more primitive feelings is indeed an indictment of college sports. Turner Gill is just the latest example.

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James, New Orleans, LA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:27:01 GMT

Well said Mr. Celzic; great piece

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James, New Orleans, LA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:28:22 GMT

Great piece Mr. Celizic

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chris godwin,albertville,al. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:39:13 GMT

charles barkley is the only racist here,its a free country so people can hire who they want to.

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Jimmy Long, Ar — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:40:36 GMT

The question is why did Auburn fire Tommy Tuberville. The guy has done a great job. This was the best Auburn could do is hire a guy that is 5-19 to one of the bigger programs in the country. This is a joke. I guess it serves them right to fire Tuberville in the first place. Schools are going nutts. Why fire successful coaches, Phillip Fulmer is a legend and is proven. I don't see Penn State getting ride of there coach Jo Pa. Fulmer should have been able to make the choice to retire. He made Tennesse to a National Power House. He also would have brought them back. The man can coach. Sports in general is into what have you done for me today. NBA perfect example of no loyalty. We are consumed with win, win, win, and win. We have no concern of the character of the program. Tubberville and Fulmer both ran high class programs. Its crazy and the institutions deserve some ruff times. You asked for it.

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Jackie Chan, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:41:39 GMT

Mike,
Very good analysis. Now the question is how to correct this situation. It is true that some whites won't support a black coach. But a majority of the best athletes are black. When will they support their own. That will be when the schools hire black coaches rather than lose with white coaches. As the NFL has shown, winning is the ONLY thing!!

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AJ, Amarillo, TX — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:46:23 GMT

It would be naive to think that some amount of racism doesn't exist in college football, but college football has become too big of a business for most schools to overlook a coach based upon the color of his skin. The university presidents and AD's are under tremendous pressure from the Alumni to put together a winning program. 99% of them are going to choose the guy they believe is best to handle it, regardless of whether he is black, brown or white. Is that true in the Auburn situation, or is Auburn part of the 1%? Who knows?

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Mike, Picayune, Ms. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:01:26 GMT

Racism is a cancer to society and the world abroad. It is ingrained in the hearts of many. Until people decide to look beyond the color of someones skin, this disease will continue to infect our society. It is very curable but so few are willing try.

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Josh, Dayton, OH — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:02:00 GMT

I don't think race played an important factor...I refuse to say it didn't because I can't speak for others and I can't speak for what happened in the interviews; neither can you Mr. Celizic.

What I can speak for are the players, black and white, from the '04 team that spoke out in favor of Chizik, not Turner Gill.

I wanted Turner Gill to be the coach as well, but just like you I'm an outsider without the same access to information privy to Auburn . I thought having an offensive minded head coach would turn Auburn around. But at the same time, I'm comforted in knowing we have a coach that already fits Auburn. I'm even more comfortable knowing the team that went 13-0, black players and all, said it was a right decision to hire Chizik.

So go ahead and play the race card to get your article on the web. But it's all speculation. Turner Gill make look like the logical choice, but maybe he wanted too much money, maybe he sucks at interviewing, and maybe he couldn't get support from alumni and players to make him the coach.

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T. Edwards — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:17:36 GMT

I think Mr. Barkley has a valid point, we as a society have to get over the issue of race, or this country will implode upon itself. The entire world is watching nowadays, and we need to change the image that people abroad have of us, as the land of hypocrisy.

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Randy — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:22:43 GMT

We elected a president to do the job not that he is black he is a person like you and I , and that should be the same for a football coach. Charles chill out.

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PT - Milwaukee — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:27:28 GMT

Like they say.. "The more things change, the more they stay the same"... Especially when it comes to institutionalized racism in the south.

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PT - Milwaukee — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:28:05 GMT

Like they say.. "The more things change, the more they stay the same"... Especially when it comes to institutionalized racism in the south.

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Kelli F., Lithonia, GA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:40:06 GMT

You've made good points. You're right, though. After interviewing both, how could they choose Chizik? One also has to take into consideratioin the recruiting. Alot of families would have not been as accepting to Gill than Chizik. It's a shame and a sign of mental weakness but it's also a reality.

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Mike, Buffalo NY — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:44:46 GMT

Turner Gill possesses an aura. I was fortunate enough to meet him and I saw it and felt it and it looked and felt like greatness. We at Buffalo know that Turner's next opportunity will include big wins over Syracuse AND Auburn. Hell, he'll probably figure out a way to beat both these teams even if he does stay right where he's at.

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JL — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:02:35 GMT

I don't always agree with Chas. Barkley's assessment of things White/Black. This time I'm on board whole heartedly. Credentials seems to have taken a back seat in Auburns hiring process. Turner Gill has done all that has been asked of him and more, just to fall to another skewed view of African Americans in the college football coaching scene. Shame on ya Auburn. Oh, and by the way....I'm a 40 something year old white dude from Wisconsin. Gill should have prevailed with the things he was able to accomplish when others failed.

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Tim F, Beatrice, Ne — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:17:30 GMT

Gill did not need Auburn anyways.

Turner Gill is a great coach, he belongs at a Big 10 or Big 12 School. He will eventually show all these schools what they missed out on.

I remember spending an entire day with him when he was the QB here in Nebraska. He was just as classy as a young man as he is now as a coach and a family man. He spent his entire day at a charity event with the old folks in Beatrice, raisng money for the American Heart Assn. He could have been out doing what most college kids do, but not TG, he was there for the next guy.

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Joe Athens, Al — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:52 GMT

I have lived my entire life in the south, specifically Alabama. Racism is alive and well here- thank you very much (just ask the KKK people down the street from me)I do not know if Auburn did not hire Gill because he is black, or because his wife is white, or what. I do know that based on statistics they made a poor choice.
Now for you people who say there is no racism left in our country just because we elected a black president - pull your heads out!

Barkley is entitled to his opinion, and maybe he is right, and that is something that those of us on the outside of Auburn will never know.

Back when the Bear fielded his first black player he did so because other schools were doing it and winning. And so it goes today - nothing has changed except on the surface we act like everything has - racism still exist and particularly here in the south.

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JonR (St. Cloud MN) — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:50:30 GMT

This is simple... if Turner Gill or any other black man had been 5-19 would he have even been interviewed for the Auburn job? I don't even have to answer that...

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white girl from Mississippi — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:50:48 GMT

I think the whole mess at Auburn all comes down to having a tiny group of alumni with entirely too much power. Doesn't matter if the Auburn campus and alumni wanted Tubberville to stay or Gill to be hired, that group of old white guys pull the strings.

The majority of AU alums I know (black and white) are kind of sick to their stomachs right now -- they were bewildered by the treatment of Tubberville, and THEY WANTED GILL. They saw him as a winner, and that's what they want. The possibility that their school has made such a bone-headed move because of the undue influence of Lowder, et. al., drives them nuts. But not being "moneyed," they know their opinions don't count.

Auburn students protested when Tubberville was fired -- I will be interested to see what they do when break is over. I would love it if they were able to force some honesty from the AD and the alums.

Oh, and to Mr. Johnson from Jacksonville, FL? By your logic, we shouldn't hire any white coaches either, as the only Div. I head coaches to go on NCAA probation were all white. Interesting argument -- generalizations of that sort are the sign of a weak mind.

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Kyle David, Birminham, AL — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:52:19 GMT

Good article and good for Charles for speaking his mind. Based on performance, Gill has been the better coach. Therefore, you do have to wonder why he was not offered the position as the most qualified and the coach with the proven track record - come on folks, he took the WORSE D1 school in the country and turned them around. Auburn showed their true colors - pun intended - with this hire.

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Dolph T — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:58:35 GMT

News flash: Alabama school officials may be racist; details at 11. Does this surprise anyone? Compare the records of the two coaches involved in this flare-up and it's easy to see that Sir Charles is right -- but is easier still to see that it isn't surprising.

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Jeri Herring Vance, Al — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:00:12 GMT

It has absolutely nothing to do with the ignorance of the south. It has to do with the ignorance of the Trustees at Auburn,Jay Jacobs, and the Idiot President at Auburn.Why in this world did you fire Tubberville? and hire at coach with a losing record just because he has ties? Give me a break. Bobby Louder, Spina, and Raines have more say in what goes on at Auburn than anyone. After all Louder is the reason a few others don't have a job at Auburn. Just ask Terry Bowden. As far as Auburn goes I could care less. Being an Alabama fan and living in the heart of CRIMSON TIDE country it's funny to see the panic at Auburn. After all they can't hire the best coach in college football or the SEC. He's taken!In my opinion they did Gill a favor. At least now he has job security. No coach in his right mind should take that job, because he won't be the man running the show. They need someone like Saban to go in there and say "It's my way or I'm out of here." Get rid of the Trustees and Auburn might have a chance of survival. After all if money wasn't an object then why didn't they go after the best? What are they going to do change coaches everytime THE CRIMSON TIDE spank em'?

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Kim Perkins — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:06:54 GMT

Charles Barkley played basketball as if it were football. The refs never called a foul on him, either. Not when it counted, anyway. And they certainly granted him more leniency (with fouls) than other players. He converted a "no contact" sport [during the regular season] to a "full contact" sport (like NBA playoffs or like football) almost singlehandedly. In his absence, it has morphed back to something more like hoops was intended (less full contact in the lane). ABut now, if the press lets him, he will convert politics to the same full contact sport. No political correctness whatsoever. Just full on, blatant "truth." Just keep praising him, and you may live to regret it.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Steph — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:06:57 GMT

Coach Chizik coached at AU for three years, even recruited some of the upcoming seniors. He coached two of AU's best defenses in the history of the school. His 2004 defense was the undefeated and one of the best, if not the best, in the country and should have been playing for the BCS title. The next year his defense helps UT win the title. Yes, his record is bad at ISU, but there was no Seneca Wallace and no facilites or great athletes there. I don't think this was based on color. Chizick's record is more than his two years at a bottom tier school as it's head coach. If he was so bad, why did ISU extend his contract and why are up in arms now? Chizik got the job because he was judeged on his entire career, his AU ties, his SEC ties. I believe both he and Gill are exceptional humans and great coaches. It came down to Coach Chizik's familiarity with the Auburn and the SEC. Also, Gill could not promise he would stay at AU if the coaching job at Nebraska were to come open in 2 or 3 years. Why is AU getting the bad rep. when his own alma matter passed on him last year and Syracuse passed on him this year? Garner from UGA, who is also black, interviewed for the job at AU too. I believe that's more then any of the other schools as far as interviewing miniorities. By the way one of AU's assistant coaches is a black man married to a white woman.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Sarah Smith, AL — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:13:28 GMT

Oh please! Stop it with the race stupidity and the South. I've worked all over this country, and there is as much, if not more, racism in Wisconsin, Illinois, Texas, New Mexico, and every other state in the US. Give it a rest.

While pretty much no one agrees with the Auburn hire, they picked a man they knew, that some of the players know, and that all the high school coaches in Alabama and Florida and other states around there know also. He can recruit and, regardless of the last two years, he has helped coach 2 NC teams. Gill would have been in unfamiliar territory in the SEC, would have to cultivate relationships with coaches, etc.

I didn't want Chizik either, but stop making it a race issue. Auburn has multi-racial staff and fans. If the players, etc. support him, we just have to let him prove himself (or not).

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Mike, Valparaiso IN — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:21:43 GMT

1st, never forget that Big Money drives the world of college football, especially at the big powerhouse schools.

You can bet your booty that they picked a nice, safe coach to schmooze the big donors, instead of picking the better coach who could win but has a white wife. Auburn could see the donatation pool shrinking and avoided it at all costs, including winning.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Tom Hamil, Houma, Louisiana — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:26:18 GMT

I don't know who the right person was to have been hired at Auburn or any college. I do know that it gets pretty old hearing that there is not enough black coaches in college football. What is enough? I have heard the argument by some in the media that 70% of the players are black and only 3 black coaches and it is pathetic. Well if the plan is to hire coaches at a rate or ratio as black players to black college coaches and not hire who you think is the best; then maybe we should look at the player level and say that only 13 to 15% of the population is black so you need to have a lot more white players and a lot less black players. Well the truth is that the players that are the best are the ones who are awarded scholarships and get to play. Racism and prejudism is a sad truth, but it has lessened; and the longer that the media continues to bring it up the longer it will exist.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Scott — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:29:12 GMT

I'm less surprised about Auburn not hiring Gill than in Syracuse not hiring Gill. Yes, I think there was racism involved in Auburn's decision, but what about Syracuse? How do they not select a succesful coach who is already located in their general area, and thus very well known to their recruiting base?

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Terry, Wiiliamsville, NY — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:35:20 GMT

Any reason why Mr. Celizic feels compelled to take a shot at the city of Buffalo? Quite frankly, we are tried of the same old shots. At least try to come up with something original. By the way, the lake isn't frozen and we appear to be doing better than the rest of the country in this recession!
Perhaps Mr. Gill enjoys his stay in Buffalo! He did pull his name out of the Syracuse coaching derby.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Jeff B. Dayton, Ohio — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:40:00 GMT

I think all of you who try to excuse away the fact that racial inequality doesn't drive decisions not only in college or professional sports (upper management), but in corporate America and everyday life are as ignorant as your forefathers who owned slaves. Just because we elected an Afro-American President doesn't mean we need to rest on our civil right laurels, or lack there of.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Scott, Syracuse, NY — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:40:46 GMT

Mr. Celizic,

It is not difficult to analyze why Coach Gill didn't get the job in Auburn and come up with the same conclusions you have. It's an article that if you didn't write someone else would have as the conclusions are obvious. Barkley had the guts to say it first. You are not breaking any new ground here. That's not what bothers me though.

How can you possibly imply that race was a factor in Syracuse's hiring of Doug Marrone? Did you do any research at all into this or is your statement a weak attempt at solidifying a position that is based as much on opinion as fact? Here are some facts for you that doing a little research would have yielded:
1.) Doug Marrone stated this is his dream job and has been working toward this his entire career.
2.) Syracuse has a history of retaining coaches for an extraordinarily long time, especially in the win-now culture of college athletics. Marrone fits this mold whereas Gill may not.
3.) Marrone is an alumnus of SU.
4.) He is a former football player at SU.
5.) He is as qualified as Gill, being that he is the offensive coordinator of the New Orleans Saints.
6.) Marrone has strong recruiting ties in the northeast from his days here.
7.) The last, and most obvious- the athletic director for SU is Daryl Gross. He just so happens to be black!

Your implication that Gill was passed up at SU because he is black is not only wrong, but irresponsible. To say so would be to call Daryl Gross a racist and that makes almost as little sense as your comment itself. You owe the athletic department and fans of Syracuse University an apology!

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Greg,kokomo,indiana — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:43:48 GMT

Im sick of everytime someone doesnt get hired its a race issue. The bottom line is there are 260 million people in this country and every person of any race, gender, or whatever cant be a coach or a player. Maybe he did get treated unfairly and thats not right but at the same time the more people make that a fuss over it the more people get jaded or angry. Its just a never ending cycle of one side getting angry at the other so they seek revenge then vise versa. At what point are we just ignore an idiot and move on? Or i guess we can keep this rediculous arguement up and still be where we're at 50 years from now.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Dennis Mathis, Chipley Fl — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:46:52 GMT

Until we get the same reaction to the racist way Barkley wanted to pick a basketball coach, anyone long as he's black. Don't gripe about a college hiring a coach for their reasons. Or if you're bringing up the President, if the only reason someone voted for him was because he was black and that was fine then don't complain if whites do the same thing.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Lisa, Montgomery, AL — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:51:01 GMT

As a life-long Auburn fan, I have to agree AND disagree with our beloved Charles Barkley. I totally agree that Gill should have been selected as AU's new head coach. Many fellow AU fans and I stayed glued to the blogs,sports radio, etc., and were extremely excited at the possibility of a Gill hire. Where I disagree with Barkley is to say this was a racial decision. Nothing could be further from the truth as far as AU's fan base...every poll conducted during the coaching search had Gill running 1st or a strong 2nd in our choice for the new coach. This was blunder by AU officials from the get-go, starting with the FIRING OF TUBERVILLE. You need only look to current athletics director Jay Jacobs to understand this was a result of his ineptness. Again, DUMB hire, not racial.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Ed, Iowa City, IA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:54:13 GMT

please...please don't confuse the south with America's Heartland...

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Gary — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:55:25 GMT

Now I get it...you only post comments that agree with either the writer or Barkley...

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J Jacobs, Enid, Oklahoma — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:04:10 GMT

Once again someone(Charles Barkley) and a suppose new writer(Mike Celizic) make a national statement and write a national article WITHOUT FACTS, but persoanl assumptions. Were either of these men in the interview process? Were either of these men even remotely apart of any of the process of hiring at Auburn? The hard fact is NO, they were not. So, POOF, it was a racist decision. PROVE IT! Put up or shut up. This is how a certain amount of racism stays alive is that because some one black doesn't get a job and it is automatically racism. Please stop making assumptions because you can be heard or because you can write an article. When did news become opinion instead of FACTS.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Jerry, Nashville TN — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:06:52 GMT

Want to see those screaming 'Racist' squirm? Hire an American Indian coach, Filipino coach, Hispanic coach, or Asian coach, and then see if the screamers are satisfied. Answer? No, because you didn't hire the race THEY WANTED. So I ask you, who's really the racist?...

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Joe A, Gilroy Ca — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:07:36 GMT

I am a human who happens to be of color. I am getting tired of people thinking the worst, Turner Gill is a GREAT man and a GOOD coach he will get a Big 10 / 12 gig... but he is NOT i'll say it again NOT the best fit for Auburn... People look at without colorful eyes. Look at it as it is.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Penn State Fan — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:13:55 GMT

Maybe Penn State should come calling ... Joe's ready for retirement, and Gill is just as classy as Joe is!! Penn State AD take notice!!

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Bob — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:26:02 GMT

I wonder if you and Charles Barkley feel the same way about Syracuse not hiring Turner Gill. After all, they did hire a white guy with no college head coaching experience.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

John, Wolcott, CT — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:31:54 GMT

Mike, To make your point you decided to point to the Football Sub-Division and not Division 1 as a whole. Last year in DI almost 13% of the head coaching vacancies were filled by minority hires. Why are you making this about race?

Why did you leave out the most salient point? Sir Chuckle-Head once agreed to serve on a hiring committee for Auburn only if they agreed to hire a Black Coach. Mike, you know this. Your article does not point out the obvious..perhaps Sir Chuckle-Head is a racist and has an axe to grind here. And you and the rest of the media are enabling him....again.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Steven Chappelle, Duluth, GA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:35:59 GMT

This was not about race, as much as it was about STUPID! I have renounced my season tickets for this year...I just can't go on with Lowder, Gogue and Jacobs running this circus. I've been an AU fan all of my life, but I've had it. GIll or Rodney Garner...or even Jimbo Fisher, would've been a MUCH better choice than this turncoat who left us for Texas!

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Brian, Birmingham, AL — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:55 GMT

Maybe Chizik performed better in the interview than Gill, and there was more synergy between he and AD Jacobs. Passion speaks volume in an interview. Sorry for my simple logic. War Eagle!!

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Freeman, Washington, DC — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:41:01 GMT

Beth from MS said it best. Mike and Charles, although well intended, are late comers to this diversity party. It is the culture and people that still needs to change. We have miles to go before we sleep.

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S.S Hanover, MD — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:41:52 GMT

Even if Sir Charles is correct, they had better and more qualified white choices at their fingertips than the one they chose. We the AU faithful want the best coach for our program. Since we are forced to get a new one, I'll take a qualified, winning one of any color. I think they made a big mistake letting TG get away.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

preach Newark Del — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:48:00 GMT

Charles was right on this one, weather you like it or not. When you claim you are about winning, & then go out & hire 2nd best, & try to justify why, when you had the chance to hire the best,somthing is wrong. Race is a problem in the south,& it is sad, his marriage should not be an issue, but it is, Gill will be hired, & I hope Auburn is on his schedule, to show all what they passed up. A CLASS ACT.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Bill — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:49:11 GMT

I've noticed a disproportionate number of black players in college and the pros. Is that racist against whites?

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Tony Trotter — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:52:02 GMT

Actually, Auburn did Gill a BIG favor!!! Why in the hell would he want to work for a school that would fire him at the drop of a hat? Have absolutely no sense of loyalty to him even if he had given them everything that they had asked for and more. No . . . there are better schools and programs out there waiting for Gill and I personally wish him the best. Auburn University deserves the many, many years that it is going to take for them to rebuild (if they ever do).

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Ed, St. Paul, MN — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:52:20 GMT

Turner Gill was offered Chizik's old job at Iowa State and turned it down.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Trevor, CA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:53:19 GMT

Charles Barkley is a joke. He is the definition of racism. He will preach from his national podium about racism whether it has to do with basketball, college football, or why they gave him a vanilla ice cream cone instead of a chocolate one at baskin robbins. He screams and cries about racism and black players or coaches not getting the same respect, treatment, etc... and that Mr. Barkley is racism itself.

Bottom line is this. Yes Turner Gill has a great track record. Yes Gene Chizik does not. WHO CARES! You don't think there were a dozen more qualified coaches out there who would've taken this job?? Common sense would suggest that, plain and simple, Chizik had alot of deep connections with Auburn and people in charge, that's it. Nothing to do with race, nothing. You want to scream and cry and belittle somebody, scream at Auburn for firing a proven winner in Tuberville!!! And please somebody take Mr. Barkley's race card and super glue it over his mouth.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Keith — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:54:31 GMT

It is a stupid hire, regardless of who was overlooked.
Maybe if enough black athletes refuse to come to Auburn, maybe that will send a strong message to the University.

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Debra Williams — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:57:21 GMT

I feel that C. Barkley is probably right about Turner Gill's race being a factor about Auburn. I am definitely a white female Oklahoma University fan and remember watching Turner Gill play many times for the University of Nebraska. However, I didn't recall Turner being black. It never mattered. He was a terrific player, and obviously a good coach at Buffalo. We sort of wondered why UN didn't hire him. Although Pellini, UN's choice of coach, was an Asst at Oklahoma so we were happy for his hire at UN. Oklahoma is still the "south", and Auburn is much more so. I'm quite sure race and the race of his wife was a definite consideration for Gill's non-hire. Pathetic that race still matters to some people.

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E.R.W. - Houston, TX. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:04:44 GMT

Like it or not, Sir Charles usually is right.

Some day, we will get past this, even in the South.

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Scott, Cheyenne WY — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:04:59 GMT

While it does seem like the situation at Auburn could be a result of racism, its probably not fair to include Syracuse in this article. I'm not a Syracuse fan or anything, but I followed the situation and by most accounts it seemed like Turner Gill really wasn't interested in that job. Frankly, I don't think he wants just ANY major position and maybe he wasn't all that interested in Auburn...though I think he had more interest in Auburn than he did Syracuse.

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TJ, Nashville, TN — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:05:13 GMT

"I picture them worrying about a black head coach coming into the homes of white recruits in the backwater, red-state towns of the American heartland."

So, all Republicans are racists as well? If you do not think that is true, why did you add the "red-state" comment? It is out of line and unrelated to the argument. It is people like you who gave birth to the school of thought that if someone voted for McCain over Obama, they must be racist.

I believe that Chizik is a horrible hire. Perhaps Gill's interview was awful. You don't hire a resume, you hire a person.

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helen b atlanta, ga — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:06:01 GMT

Why is it always about race?? We elected a black president, there is no more reason for racism. Maybe the white guy had more experience than the black. Maybe its time affirmative action goes away. Believe me, there is enough racism on the black side, you don't think so move to Atlanta.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Jason — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:07:40 GMT

I wonder if The Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport has stats on how many black athletes get college scholarships? Where is that number? I guess it's considered "diverse" when 95% of college sports players are black? Someone how that's fair right? And no one will rest until 95% of college coaches are black. Or 95% of NFL coaches are black (the players are already 95%). But you won't here anyone complain about the overwhelming majority of players being black. I wonder though, exactly why was Barkley pulling for Gill to be hired? Because he's black? Right, but that's not being racists...A black man wants a black coach to get hired...nothing racists about that

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Gary — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:15:46 GMT

Chizik had ties to Auburn; Gill did not. Chizik had recruited in the SEC before; Gill has not. Auburn doesn't think that, with Chizik, they will have to wait long to win again (which I think is a joke, but it's what they think); they thought, with Gill, it might take a few years and they are impatient. Barkley is still an A$$.

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Mark Jackson, Indianapolis Indiana — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:00 GMT

I find it funny how anyone can agree with Charles Barkley. He is the most racist black person next to Louis Farakahn you will find. The guy coached at BUFFALO. Big freaking deal. He coached in the MAC. Watch what Brady Hoke does in San Diego. He will FAIL. There take a certain something to be an SEC Football coach and neither one of the candidates for the job qualified. Pathetic how you people think this is racist....and you wonder why it still exists.....

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Joe Slaughter — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:17:02 GMT

I would love to openly debate you on this, Mike. Somehow, I don't feel I will have the chance. Go hide behind your media bias and don't confuse your article with facts.

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Trey, Huntsville, AL — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:24:36 GMT

As painful as it is to deal with, you nailed it. But I implore all of you to understand the vast disconnect between the small power base at Auburn that made this terrible decision and the rank and file Auburn supporters who are outraged by it.

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John, Pittsburgh, PA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:24:49 GMT

hey genius, UB is the Bulls not the Buffs and the famous chicken wing comes from the Anchor Bar, not the Anchor Tavern. Try putting 10 minutes of research in next time you write an article.

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Walker303 — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:26:02 GMT

Has anyone considered black coach's may...JUST MAY, gravitate towards black colleges? Show me how many white football coaches there are at african american institutions, then lets have a discussion about race.

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Hammer, Washington DC — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:26:11 GMT

Bottom line...yes, Barkley says dumb things. But just because he does this all the time does not mean he is wrong all of the time. For once, he is dead right and the numbers don't lie. Get over it. Leave Coach Gill's wife out of this (that is another matter that should be addressed elsewhere).
Division I College football has progressed as far as hockey at any level as far as diversity is concerned and that is nowhere. College presidents, athletic directors and all the boosters and people who choose the football head coaches for these top 110-odd schools across this land, especially in the South (ACC,SEC) and the Midwest (Big Ten, Big 12) are racists, sexists, hyprocrites and bigots. Period.
They are also fools and idots for refusing to install a playoff system within the bowl system to fairly crown a national champion on the field (and make more money for everyone doing it). Yet the players can't even hold a part-time job to have money to go to the movies. Seem fair? The facts don't lie.
I dare you all to prove me wrong. Put your reputations and your money and jobs on the line, and hire a person of color as your head football coach. Give him the same tools to succeed as you do the "good ol' boys" you keep recycling and let's see what happens. The NFL finally did so and a Black man and a Hispanic man has won championships as a head coach, in short order. Same in the NBA. When will the blatant racism end? Obviously, the above examples nor electing a person of color as President of the United States is not enough to change things, so the answer is clearly, never, in this regard. How sad. Coach Gill is better off at Buffalo than dealing with racists everywhere else. Bottom line.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Eric, Rochester NY — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:27:23 GMT

The Syracuse job never even occurred to me. He easily could have increased any recruiting in the North East if he'd went to Syracuse.
I know it sounds selfish but I almost hope he stays in Buffalo. I love going to Bulls games, and watching a quality team, with quality players.

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Nikki B, Jacksonville, Fl. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:36:18 GMT

For those of you who don't feel race plays a part when it comes to hiring coaches, look at Charlie Strong(UF). Charlie Strong is one of the best coordinators in the country and yet he's been passed over again and again by less experienced white coordinators for head coaching jobs. Also, in case you didn't know, he's also a black man with a white wife. Now, you make the call.

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Larry, Montclair, NJ — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:45:41 GMT

Army would be a great place for Turner Gill. I hope they're smart enough to hire him. It will be a tough assignment.

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TD, Coppell, TX — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:50:18 GMT

I don't believe race played a major part in the decision not to hire Gill (I'm not naive enough to say that it played no factor in the hiring of a Southern coach), but if all Auburn was looking for was a white coach instead of a black coach, there were plenty of other coaches that interviewed that had equally as good of resumes as Gill. Chizik is the man Auburn wanted, do I think it was a stupid hire to hire a man with a 5-19 record, yes, but do I think it came down to a decision between the black Gill and the white Chizik, with race being the deciding factor...No.

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Jim Wilkinson — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:53:27 GMT

Charles may be right, but it is it any different from
his getting a job as an analyst because he is black. I doubt that he is as qualified as the many journalism
majors that would love to have his job. The truth is he got the job because he was black.

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Shelley Sprague Sarasota,Florida — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:39 GMT

I wonder why Tom Osborne did not even mention Gill as the new coach at Nebraska last year before they named Bo Pelini. Gill has a strong tradition as a Husker. If Barkley would spend some of his money to the Auburn boosters instead of the casino, I think he then would have something to complain about.

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O, Atlanta — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:02:32 GMT

...hold on now, don't try to compare the lowly Big 10 to the Ascendent Big 12...

I believe too that Charles is a blowhard and often speaks off key. I usually find fault with his position and initially did here as well only knowing it was Charles and none of the details...but now, I think Charles is right point, sad to say. No way Chizik after his performance as head coach, maybe one of the other contenders, but this makes it too obvious...surely he couldn't have been that bad at interviewing, he is a head coach!!! Hate to wish it on you Auburn, but your tenure under C should be as good as Notre Dame's under Weiss.

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Michael Henry — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:03:05 GMT

Gill Interviewed at Syracuse< Tennessee, Neb., and Clemson Why Is AUBURN the only one racists.

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Fred, Montgomery, Alabama — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:05:00 GMT

This decision was not reflective of what Auburn is about. It was made by administrators trying to decide on the coach they thought had experience with the SEC and Auburn, and who was best for their philosophy in the long hall. You need to realize that polls showed that as many as 80% of Auburn fans and alumni were favoring Turner Gill over Gene Chizik. It is easy for Barkley and the press to play the race card, it is controversial and sells, but it is getting old and worn out. Why was there no discussion of this issue when Clemson, Tennessee, and yes, Nebraska passed on Turner Gill for head coach? Could it be because a school in Alabama and the deep south (with no media outlet in a big city) is a scapegoat? I have lived and attended college and supported football in both Nebraska and in Alabama, and there is more racial fear, anger and hatred in Omaha than Auburn. Let's give Chizik and Auburn some credit and a chance.

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Tony J, SF, CA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:06:02 GMT

It's clear that race was a factor. I've been in the deep south recently, and most white people will tell you they voted for McCain because Obama was black---and then they will deny that it had to do with racism....

Those Confederate flags on the back of so many pickup trucks in the South are not due to their love of history and heritage!

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len — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:12:18 GMT

Life isn't fair....

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Michael Bolton, Ontario, CA — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:19:37 GMT

To my point of view, racism is a two way street. In an ESPN article, "Barkley, an 11-time NBA All-Star and two-time Olympic gold medal winner, said he served on Auburn's search committee for a new basketball coach after the 2003-04 season. Barkley said he told Auburn officials he would serve on the committee only if the school was ready to hire a black coach." Why is it OK for Barkley to insist that the institution hire a black coach, but it is racist if they decide otherwise?

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Matt Dame — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:20:26 GMT

Notre Dame should trade Charlie Weis to Buffalo for Turner Gill.

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RCF, BR, La. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:20:58 GMT

Let's put the issue of race aside for just a moment. If any one were able to promote some one to the next level; would you choose socomeone who has done a poor job, or one who has excelled at his craft? I'm sure that if it had nothing to do with the issue of race, Mr. Gill would be the man. Let's face it, that's the way it is here below the mason-dixon line. Remember......a lot of your major teams were not winners without black quarterbacks! Maybe this thought will occur to these universities! And to the guy that asked the question of other successful black college football coaches; ever heard of the late great Eddie Robinson of Grambling State, who by the way has put more players in the NFL than any other coach in history!!!! He's also the the winningest coach in CFB history!

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Joseph, Georgia — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:28:33 GMT

As a former collegiate footbal player I think this whole thing is deplorable. The number of potential black coaches in the college pipeline is 3.5% what's changed? I've seen blacks with a great coaching personailty passed up for frivolus reasons like coach Gill. I still say besides playing together on the footbal field we have a lot of growing up to do socially. Just like in Pittsburg booster will respond to winner no matter who accompanies him. It's a joke that the only interracial marriage people pay attention to is a black man and white wife. If universities are not going to be the beached to stop this abominable violation of social growth and development them shame on them. Syracuse home of Jim Brown and ernie Davis could not bring themselve to hire a black coah. Come on this make those of us that have played this game leave it with a sour and bitter taste.

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Andy Tuscaloosa,AL — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:31:25 GMT

It.s true race plays a part with the hiring of a coach. During a recruiting visit to a black home. A black coach with a white wife might face this same racist mentality. It works in the minds of both races.

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Agille — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:43:19 GMT

looks like freedom of speech doesn;t work here. I posted earlier that it was Auburns decision, plus if the coach gill was so proud of his race, then why didnt he marry a black woman??

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Marcus Jones, Dallas, Texas — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:51:48 GMT

Guys, if it was just about the resume, then McCain would have won the presidential race by a landslide. Of course it's about race. 98% of the African Americans in our country voted for Obama because he is black, not because his resume was better than McCain's. It works both ways in today's world. So Barkley needs to understand that it is a two way street - if racism helps get a president in the White House, then having a black coach not hired because he is black is part of the same process. Is that equitable? No, but it works both ways. Ask the fast,good white receivers or fast,good white DB's (yes, they are out there!) that would like to get a scholarship to Auburn, but do not because of the color of their skin, what they think of racism. It works both ways in today's society.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Richard, Phoenix, AZ — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:56:12 GMT

First of all, Charles Barkley is one of the worst racists in the country. His remarks are consistently anti-white. Secondly, why the concern with how many black coaches there are in the NCAA? Why not Hispanic or Oriental? Black coaches will emerge when they begin to consistently produce superior results. I always thought Ty Willingham was a great coach, but after leaving Stanford, he fell flat on his face. Auburn clearly chose the person they thought best fit with their program. They are the ones paying the bill. If Barkley, an Auburn alumni, was so convinced that Turner Gill was the better choice, why didn't he offer to foot the bill for half his salary. That's what other alumni do when they want a change. Instead, Charles would rather spend his bucks in Las Vegas and then complain that his alma mater isn't doing the right thing. Put your money where your mouth is, Mr. Barkley.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Pat Madden, Washington, DC — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:11:23 GMT

Perhaps the media outcry about Notre Dame being racist for firing Tyrone Willingham after "only" 3 years is having a negative effect on the ability of minority coaches to secure head coaching jobs at big-time programs? I believe that Willingham's actual performance at ND justified the firing, but Notre Dame was crucified in the media. (Some people are still harping on it despite TW's subsequent abysmal performance at UW that provide the definitive evidence that he simply is not a very good head coach.) The athletic directors who are hiring head football coaches may not want to take the risk of all the adverse publicity of firing a minority coach after 2 or 3 years of bad performances.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Matt, NJ — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:17:47 GMT

Gill may be a better coach. But as someone stated earlier if the people in the south whom they are recruiting follow Chizik to Auburn and are more welcoming to his presence in their homes than he will be coach.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Jeff H, Honolulu, HI — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:18:38 GMT

Iowa State should pick up Gill. It would be an improvement from last year and give a "big time" shot to a deserving coach.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Doug, Austin, TX — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:23:01 GMT

Based on this type of argument, I think there should be more white players in the NBA because, well, there's just not enough of them.
I don't really care about this guy's two-year stint at Iowa State, a program that aside from a decent year back in 2000, has NEVER been any good and plays in a conference that has only gotten better.
Buffalo had no place to go but up. I'm glad Gill seems to be turning things around but I'm sick and tired of the race card argument.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Dennis Mathis, Chipley Fl — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:32:25 GMT

What's the difference in Barkley only helping in the basketball coach search only if they hire a black coach and what Auburn is accused of. If want to address racism let's call out all the racist.

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MICHAEL, LAGRANGE, GA. — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:35:25 GMT

WELL NOW IT HAPPEN AGAIN,SIR CHARLES WAS RIGHT THIS TIME, TG ,WAS GOOD FOR THE JOB, THIS THE SOUTH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT,RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL HERE,DID U LOOK AT ELECTION MAP THE WHOLE (SEC VOTED FOR Mcain) a black football player is ok but black man in charge a mayor white college football team somebody help pls AUBURN ALUMNI. THINK ABOUT

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Brad Fore — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:43:22 GMT

Kelli F. wrote that families with kids being recruited wouldn't accept a black coach. Most of the kids recruited are Black that's a stupid argument to make. Now we have black on black racism. The media makes this situation worse.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Elliot Hitchcock, Tempe AZ — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:11:36 GMT

Please note, after USC's Sam Cunningham ran around, over and through 'Bama's defense, the Bear when to the state legislature and lobbied for a change in state law so he could recruit blacks. For those of us who remember it, it wasn't that long ago. Consequently, we'd not convinced racism isn't still apart of our Nation's culture, north or south.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Davis, Birmingham AL — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:14:42 GMT

Were you at the Auburn-Tennessee game this year when 87,000 Auburn fans were chanting and cheering for a black quarterback (Kodi Burns) after the starter (white) was benched? Were we racists then?

Doesn't Turner Gill already have a head coaching job? Didn't he just get a raise? How has he been harmed?

The SEC West eats coaches alive. Coaching at a MAC school is one step above high school. No one cares all that much if you win or lose. The SEC is one step below the NFL (if even). People annoyingly talk football here 365 days a year.

People like you and Barkley make a living off of making controversial comments so that people pay attention to you for a few moments. But in the end, you aren't the story.

I think MSNBC should replace you with a black sportswriter.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Davis, Birmingham AL — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:19:55 GMT

Who is going to interview Turner Gill now? Anywhere he isn't hired will be accused of racism. Who knows how many future interviews you and Barkley have messed up for him.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Bruce, Los Angeles, CA — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:22:08 GMT

We had an interesting situation at UCLA when Karl Dorrell was hired as head football coach in 2003. Karl is black, a UCLA alum and had no prior head coaching experience. Many people felt that being black was to Dorrell's advantage at a very liberal institution like UCLA and was in fact one of the reasons he was hired over Mike Riley, who is white and had previous head coaching experience. The results Dorrell achieved in his 5 years as HC were not at all impressive and he was fired after the 2007 season. Many people felt in Dorrell's case that race played too big a factor and Karl was put into a position he was not ready for.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Gary Osceola, AR — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:23:33 GMT

I'm a former Auburn student and I approve of hiring someone with SEC experience. It counts to be proven under fire. The other candidates have never won in the SEC. Successful record at Buffalo? That's to be expected in a small conference. Good luck Gene Chizik with the Auburn program. Beat Bama!

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Jim — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:51:25 GMT

I'm sorry, but this is race baiting AT IT'S BEST. You would have a point if Turner Gill was the best coach interviewed, but he wasn't. His overall Win/Loss record is under .500. There are better options out there an Chizik or Gill.

Face the facts, the real argument nobody wants to admit is about affirmative action, not about who's the best for the job.

Another black coach doesn't get a Div 1 job so the easy answer is always racism. Nobody but Auburn and Turner Gill know what went on in the interview. Nobody but Auburn and Turner Gill know what Gill's plan for the future would be (maybe it didn't fit). And maybe, Gill wanted more money than Auburn could afford considering the hefty Tubs buyout.

What we do know is how the '04 Auburn team came out in numbers, black and white players, in support of Chizik. Maybe that pushed the decision over the edge. The fact is we won't know for sure. And to call it racism, without proof, is ridiculous and stupid. Especially considering Gill wasn't the best choice.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Dan M., Indianapolis, IN — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:07:13 GMT

let me get this straight, according to a Holy Cross research study in 2005 black athletes make up roughly 55% of the student athletes in college sports.

According the the U.S Census bureau, blacks represent approximately 12.5% of the population.

so I'm to understand that because a little less than 3% of college coaches are black, there is this huge problem that needs Charles Barkley's intellectual insight?

uhhhh....yeah...there's a huge problem....the extreme racism on the part of colleges in giving scholarships disproportionally to black players. in this economy, isn't fair that some other disadvantaged races get a shot at a football or basketball scholarship?

there are indeed disparities, like how an idiot like Barkley even gets a nanosecond to prop his racist agenda or how i had to take student loans because all the scholarships are given to black athletes over everyone else....report that....

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Jeff, Boston, MA — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:19:12 GMT

Black college athletes should take offers to colleges that employ black coaches. That would sure change things!

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Bob Stellar, Syracuse, NY — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:28:21 GMT

Celizic - Typical reporter that either didn't do his homework or didn't care. The Syracuse AD is black, he interviewed 2 black coaches and HE picked a white guy!
Heh Barkley and Celizic - Was that racism also?

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David in Atlanta — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:35:23 GMT

I agree with Barkley 100%

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Christian, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:53:45 GMT

I agree with an above comment, it's all about recruiting. Turner Gill is a good coach but winning cures all. He needs to go to the Big 10 or 12 where there is not as many winning schools as the SEC and he can do more. He has no chance competing for recruits against Florida or Bama, LSU, SC, TN, etc. It was a blessing for him not to get picked. It would be interesting to see him go after the same recruits as these schools being a black man, he might have stole a few but being at Auburn probably not. I think he has a better shot at stealing Penn St. and Ohio States recruits. I don't know why anyone would want the Auburn job, The TN job is the same way, You have to beat Bama and Florida and that is going to be a hard job to do..This Chizik fellow will be gown after a couple of years.

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Billybob — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:10:36 GMT

While I do respect Sir Charles' mighty opinion, I don't believe it was about race. Whatever the reason, I believe Auburn made a terrible mistake in hiring basically a loser. I really don't like to hear that every time a black coach doesn't get hired, it's about race. If it is, then we're in a sad state, because the best MAN for the job did not get hired.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Robert ,Odenville , Al. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:12:46 GMT

How come when it's a white getting a job over a black it's racism but when it's the other way around it's ok .Racism will never end the blacks won't let it ,I think there was other things guiding their decision that the public dont know .Our new President wouldn't be in without the white vote but how many blacks voted for him just cause he's black now where does racism lay.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

stanman — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:16:11 GMT

Heard from an insider at Auburn: It wasn't entirely cuz he was black... he has a white wife.

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Taylor Moore, Joliet, IL — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:56:01 GMT

If West Virginia's Bill Stewart fizzles, I think that it would be wise for WVU to take a good long serious look at Turner Gill. I feel that with Gill's background as both multi-talented QB and now head coach, he would be an absolutely superb fit for the Mountaineers. Of course, that's assuming that things don't work out with Bill Stewart.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Paul, Florida — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:57:47 GMT

The one "fact" left out of this article is if Gill declined the offer? Does anyone know for a FACT that Gill didn't accept an offer from Auburn?Because Auburn didn't hire the black coach, they are racist? So if they had hired Gill, would it still be racist because they chose him over the other 4-5 white coaches because he was black? Don't be so naive to believe that there is a major conspiracy in the world of the NCAA to keep the black coaches at bay.

Barkley is a complete IDIOT and anyone who believes his verbal diarrhea is just plain dumb. Tell me ONE accurate, intellectual comment that he has EVER made is his life and I'll give you 100 stupid comments to counter.

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Paul, Florida — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:00:13 GMT

Hey Mike in Buffalo... you made it to your first bowl game ever. Keep a winning record going for a couple years before you start think your s* don't stink will ya? Turner is a good coach... but he hasn't proven greatness yet. Winning the MAC is not the highlight of most coaches credentials.

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J Elliss — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:02:35 GMT

I am a huge Nebraska fan and i am also a Huiger fan of Turner Gill's and I live in the deep south. These days i see racism from both sides equally as strong. please you guys from the north dont critize us until you have been in our shoes. Who knows what happened, turner could have totally blew the interview i just find it funny to speak on things as factual when you have no evidence they are. I would hire Turner Gill in a second, you will also not find a beter human Being than Turner Gill bit lets not state somehting as fact when we cant prove it. Could it be the case, of course it could but who knows. Some of you hvae made comments about the south being racist, well to some degree it still is as most of our country but it is both ways, even for my brothers in Nebraska to criticize the south remmber there is a huge difference demographically in say Georgia and Nnebraska.fact is you have good and bad people of all races but before you continue to criticize us live in ur shoes first,, fact is well over 90% of the jails and prisons in the Deep south have minoritie as inmates, you may have a reaon for this but that is a fact, visit the mall and have to cover your childrens eyes and ears, that is a fact. So be carefull that you speak of what you know for a fact as I do and i have lived in both he midwest and the dep south. amll t m

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

christopher of Los Angeles, Ca. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:35:58 GMT

This is a case of order, and Mr. Gill knows his place. This is a case of black and whites who smoke weed and the blacks go to jail. This is a case of my best friend is black but behind close doors, he better not marry my daughter. This is a case of whites take care of whites and Mr. Gill isn't white. This really is a CASE that should be heard in court but it's not because Mr. Gill isn't taking steriods.

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Spurs fan in California — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:36:39 GMT

Like always..... Charles tells it like it is.

Thank you.

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John Schultheis, Columbia Cross Roads, PA. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:47:27 GMT

It is a travesty that Turner Gill has not been hired to Coach a major college football program. His name has been linked to several Major Universitys over the past 1 and 1/2 years to be their football coach. My wish for him is that he leads Buffalo to become a major college football program and win the National Championship. Oops my mistake they are already a major college football program. Look at the record.

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scribe ,midlothian va. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:32 GMT

I like Charles Barkley's way of speaking his mind. He may not always be right, but he takes his right to do so seriously. On this matter he is 100% correct. Shame on all the hypocrites among us that alibi otherwise.A good point to ponder is what is the source of this bigotry. We as individuals have to deal with this disorder,(racism), before it becomes an epidemic.Granted, progress has been made, but that ths problem in american society still has meaning to so many, is a disgrace.

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Matt R, Fort Wayne, IN — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:33:49 GMT

Has anyone even considered that maybe Turner Gill didn't want the Auburn job?

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Kenneth W, Jasper, AL — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:07:08 GMT

If it were about race, then Gill would have never been interviewed. I get sick and tired of people yelling racism when something doesn't turn out like they think it should. I think the biggest part of racism is the ignorant and uneducated of the people who cry about it.

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Gary Skeezer, St. Louis, MO — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:07:19 GMT

Well, look at it this way... Nebraska, Gill's alma mater, just had the choice to choose between Bo Pelini and Gill, and EVEN Nebraska chose Pelini (the white guy). The decision maker was Gill's former head coach, Tom Osborne. Gill will be a great hire VERY soon... Celizic is wrong when he says Gill has "pretty good coordinator chops, too". Celizic, perhaps you can tell me where Gill was a coordinator, he NEVER has been one!!!!!

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Clarence J., Phoenix, AZ — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:29:53 GMT

Sad to say, race almost assuredly had a part in this selection. I won't say it was the only or even the most pertinent reason though. Chizik does have a history with the program that Gill doesn't, but so did Mike Dubose at Alabama. I honestly think that the Aubs will seriously regret this in the future just like we at 'Bama regretted Dumbose (and no, that isn't a misspelling). Turner Gill is someone who could have breathed new life into the Auburn program, but I guess he'll just have to wait and get his shot somewhere that is more concerned about winning than history with the team and/or race.

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Ice G — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:52:43 GMT

I feel there is a degree of racism in the Auburn pick. The comment that sending a black man into the depths of some states to recruit might not go over. However, how many white guys live in the depths? Not many. It is about meeting the wealthy alumi donors that makes the case. The school is afraid they will bail if a black coach comes in. I guess the solution is to start getting a community of black alumni who have cash and want Auburn to succeed. It comes down to education, not sports. Build that base with the new generation, not the old secret KKK'rs that still practice what they think.

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Greg, Auburn, AL — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:17:32 GMT

Mr. Gill was interviewed but did not get the job.

Mr. Chizik did.

That's the way it is. Why?

NONE OF YOU KNOW BECAUSE NONE OF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE HIRING / INTERVIEW PROCESS!!

Here are some items I DIDN'T see mentioned (since they aren't race-based, which undermines the skewed point that the author is trying to make)

Gill has never coached in the SEC

Gill has no recruiting in-roads in the South.

Gill has no ties to Auburn, to Alabama or to the SEC, other than bringing Buffalo down to Jordan-Hare Stadium in 2006 and getting beat 38-7 by Auburn.

Chizik was coordinator for 3 seasons at Auburn.

Chizik knows the area highschools and coaches.

Chizik knows the players at Auburn (in fact, recruited most of the seniors on the team!)

Perhaps Charles should stick to gambling his money away and take a few words of his own advice: "shut the hell up."

War Eagle!

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Roy, Dallas, Tx — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:55:04 GMT

Mr. Gill, other than the money, be grateful for not getting the job at Auburn. The future does not look bright for the program. Having to recruit against Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, and now Mississippi will be a nightmare for Chizik. It's sad to say but Beth might have a valid point with her statement about the interacial marriage. Turner Gill will be just fine; there should be lots of openings next year.

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dave, cleveland, ohio — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:57:05 GMT

I believe that there are many steps that our nation still needs to take in overcoming the ignorant and painful cancer that is racism. And yet I have to agree completely with Josh from Dayton Ohio. In order to not in flame the issue we should always speak with the utmost responsibility, taking care not to run to racism as the ill the effects all of our societal issues. The coaching position, and any position for that matter, should always be awarded to the best applicant who fits the particular qualifications set forth by the interviewer.
Please be sure to know your facts and take into account our population density and demographics. Please don’t use racism as the end all reason why or why not we, as people, succeed or fail. I think more often then not there is more ‘Ghost’ racism or a perception of racism then there is actual racism or the type of racism that our nation fought to eradicate back in the 1860’s.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

claude coker la palma california — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:01:52 GMT

ALL the comments pertaining to Prince Barkley's comments prove, once again, that raciasm is alive and well in America. I am white and where I live, in the minority. Doesn't matter, white people resent "colored" people because we think they are getting a free ride in many instances. Take a look at the "quotas" created at most colleges and universities. Raciasm will be with us until the good Lord returns and all will be over. Race is unkown in Heaven and it does'nt matter if you go to Hell.

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Mike B. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:16:34 GMT

The fact of the matter is there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reasoning when it comes to the coaching changes at Auburn. Only those that make the decisions know why they do what they do.
Both Mr. Celizic and Mr. Barkley are only speculating, and anyone that pays any attention to what they write or say are playing into their game. Neither should make a statement like that unless it is based on fact.

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John Actions, Auburn Alabama — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:22:02 GMT

There is a reason why certain programs will never win. The decisions made by some of these schools are mind boggling. Then they look stunned when they dont win. Turner would have been an immediate impact. This other chetznik guy will be out in 2 years. A waste of money.

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Charles, Wichita, Kansas — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:40:54 GMT

Auburn did not do itself any favors. SEC recruiting will be even more of a challenge since, there are even more teams who legimtimately expect to compete for conference titles. However, some of the arguments against Barkely and Celizic, in my opinion only bolster teh negative impact of racial bias on college athletics. Yes, the kids are exploited and many sell out the future an education might warrant.

It is the same old axiom. Black have to perform at a higher level to get the same opportunity as non-minorities. This is true as a player or as a former player who wants to continue their career in sports in another capacity.

Gill, in order to have a shot at a major college program would have to take his credential and serve under a non-minority coach who would then mentor him. Better record? Better credential? Better resume as a former player? All those go to Gill versus the ISU hed coach.

But, that is no different than the criterion to select a QB in one of those programs.

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Steve, Austin Texas — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:00:47 GMT

As a Husker fan, I feel it my duty to remind people that Nebraska also bypassed Turner Gill in its own head coaching hire one year ago. While Bo Pelini also had a limited connection to the program, his one year as def. coordinator in 2003 hardly compares to the two decades of association Turner had as a player and assistant coach. Gill is a quality guy, but one good season in a lower-tier conference may not justify the big chair (yet). If he can do it next year the offers will come from everywhere.

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W. East, Amherst, NY — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:43:14 GMT

Bulls (not Buffs)
Anchor Bar (not Tavern)

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James, Lanham, MD — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:48:54 GMT

Who cares who Auburn picks as their football coach.?!!! If they want to continue their losing ways, it's their perogative. Everyone will come around in time, but until then, who cares!!! I would not want to coach in backwards a** Alabama anyway. Stop giving these people the satisfaction of a controversy. Ignore them and then pile it on Saturday afternoon on the field.

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Mike Autry, Lancaster, SC — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:51:11 GMT

Wasn't Charles Barkley overheard several years ago saying "I hate white people." ?

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Isiah, Plaquemine, Louisiana — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:51 GMT

When will we as black athletes get together and take our talents to the HCBU's and help get them national attention, then the other schools will be willing to pay attention to us when it comes to hiring someone who looks like us... makes sense. Lets look at a few players that came from an HBCU. Michael Strahan, Jerry Rice, Doug Williams, Steve McNair and the great Walter Payton just to name a few. These guys made money and excelled in the NFL.

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S Carter Atwater Ca — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:19:41 GMT

The white AD did not pay attention to Bear Bryant, You can not win until you get some Blacks with speed.
futher more the AD are trying to raise money for the university. Mr Barkley is correct.

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Lila Lee St. Louis,Missouri — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:54:25 GMT

The truth though transparent is often quite difficult; is always hard to swallow. I wish both men the best at their respective institutions. However, should Mr. Chizik not succeed the I told you so's will play clearer than Memorex. Race contrary to popular fiction is not a thing of the past.

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Art, Victorville,Cal. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:27:05 GMT

I am sooooooo sick and tired of African-Americans playing the race card when it is convenient for them. I am Mexican-American yet you don't see me whining because there are not enough Mexican-American head coaches in college football. Would I like to see more? Sure, but I understand that the best qualified will and should get the job, regardless if he/she is green,yellow,blue,etc. Why do all of you columnists see black and white ONLY? What about the hispanics, orientals, persians, arabs, that there are not enough of as coaches in sports PERIOD? This country is made up of more than just black and white. Take off your blinders! And by the way, Barkley is a horses ass!!

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Cedric Winston greenville Ms. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:41:43 GMT

I have read everyones take on this subject and it is so funny how regional everyones opinions are. When I say regional people from the south thinks that it was fair and people from other parts of the country smell the stink. i am a black man from the delta region of mississippi and I have to say that there is a level of racism in the south. i don't think that it is intentional but a internl thing that people both black and white struggle with overcoming. In these rural areas there is no interaction between the races and for that reason there is no trading of ideas or understanding so black people are negative of whites and whites have negative opinions of blacks. i am not saying all whites or all blacks are guilty of this but it is out there.

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Lee F., Philadelphia, Pa. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:49:13 GMT

It is a shame that race still plays a part in society today. Middle class white kids get passed over for scholarships that are handed out to African Americans with much lower SAT scores simply to diversify. Somehow that does not seem fair. When the coach does not get hired because they may do well in some of the living rooms for recruitment that is a valid reason. Obviously on paper and results wise Gill is the better choice. I actually think this is going to help bring this problem to the forefront and help the diversity cause. He will be better off also. But it has to be fair. If someone works hard and deserves something they should get the job. In the case of the scholarships it should be similar, instead of lowering our standards to meet lower score levels, we should hold everyone equally accountable. If not it is a poor lesson to teach our young that even though you worked hard, your not the right color. I know that is the way it was and obviously with Gill, still may be, but it has to change for everyone. And I really hope no one gives me the 400 years speech. None of my caucasian ancestors owned or were here in America when slavery was around. We worked our way to the lower middle class ranks and are stuck here because of the economic system. We make too much and are the wrong color to get it for free, and not enough to be able to afford it by ourselves.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Brian, Fullerton — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:19:45 GMT

oh please, get off your "race card" high horse people. FACT: 2004 when Auburn went undefeated, CHIZIK was your defensive coordinator. Fact: When Chizik was Auburn's D.C., Auburn's defense was top 5 EVERY YEAR. Fact: recruiting is a HUGE part of college football, and it helps that Chizik knows Auburn and the state of Alabama. Auburn doesn't recruit nationally with the likes of USC, ND, FLORIDA, but what Auburn can do is recruit top hs seniors in state. Gill does not know Auburn. He's a Nebraska Man. I could go on and on and on as to why Chizik is the better fit at Auburn than Gill. Look past the numbers from the last two years. Its very simple people. Did race play a part in the hiring? Maybe, I can't definitively answer yes or no. Can you? But what I CAN definitively answer is that yes, Turner Gill is the "hot" coaching candidate, but at Auburn, Chizik is by far the better fit. Now if only Mike would do a little research before spewing verbal nonsense like Sir Charles.

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beulahland, Hickory, NC — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:20:08 GMT

What a bunch of crap. PMSNBC is playing the race card in sports now that the election is over. Notice how he mentioned that Alabama was a "red state". Because we all know this could never happen in a blue state. It's those uneducated white trash inbred bafoons from the south who keep racism alive. Give me a break! The facts are that racism is still alive in America. And it's not limited to white people only, racism exist in every race. The University of Auburn is free to hire and fire anyone they wish. Debate the qualifications of each individual instead of the color of their skin. This is precisely what MLK said in his famous speech. Racism is alive and well mostly because the media, Charles Barkley, and many others don't want it to die. Good luck to the next Auburn football head coach, because it appears most people don't feel you deserved it based solely on your race. How sad.

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Bill West Greenwich Ri — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:08:26 GMT

"Barkley thinks everything has to do with race.
shelly williams (Sent Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:30 AM)"

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Black AU Grad, Montgomery AL — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:28:30 GMT

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I see Turner Gill as just a mediocre coach. Sure, Buffalo had a good year, but prior to this season, Gill was just 7-17 at the school. If Ball State doesn't self-destruct in the MAC championship game, Turner Gill isn't even a serious candidate for the Auburn job. Gene Chizik wasn't my first choice (or 20th choice for that matter), but maybe the powers-that-be concluded that his previous SEC coaching experience made him a better choice than Gill.

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Gregory Romulus, Apopks FL — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:39:16 GMT

After reading this article and seeing the statistics; college football should be ashamed of itself,(especially Auburn) and yes charles barkley might seem like he always thinks its about race, but this time he's seems pretty correct. I also lived in AL and i know how it could be.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

John Pileggi, New York, NY — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:49:32 GMT

College Football needs a "Rooney Rule". When the NFL first implemented the rule requiring a team interview at least one minority applicant, I thought it was a bad idea and was a lousy form of tokenism. And I was wrong. A forum, forced or otherwise, for some very fine and talented people to get to meet and be interviewed by a GM or owner who might never have otherwise done so gives these candidates a way to become known and to impress. If the candidate is not hired on a given interview, it may lead a GM or owner to tell a colleague "you need to speak to this guy" when another opening comes up. The record of college football is poor and there is no excuse. Time for Mr. Brand to rally college presidents to challenge their habits and prejudices, knowing or subconcious. Sometimes even Barkley is right.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Tom Trzaska, Auburn, NY — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:04:42 GMT

You don't have the right to mention Syracuse in with this story Coach Gill put off his interview with the Orange on waiting for the result of his potential hiring at Auburn. Syracuse already lost some candidates due to moving fast enough... Coach Gill lost out on the Syracuse job based on ego. A BCS school was calling, he just wanted the "other one". A few more thingd for you. Our A.D. is Black.Does the name Ernie Davis ring a bell? How about Syracuse's history of black Quarterbacks? The racism of the South and the archaic thinking have absolutly nothing to do with Syracuse University.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

tony memphis, tn — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:59:46 GMT

i live in Memphis, Tn and trust me racisim is still BIG business in the south! should he have gotten this job not from a resume stand point but who knows, maybe he blew there socks off in the interview process. Gill will get a head coaching job and do great but for now lets not play the race card because lets face it, it gets really old!!!! oh yeah i'm a black man and just by reading all the commonts posted u see just how deep racisim still runs in the veins of our countrymen huh? At some point skin color WONT matter but for right now it still does. It plays a part in corperate america as much as it does in the sporting industry. good luck AU fans and godspeed BU fans.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Larry Pensacola, Fl. — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:57:37 GMT

Yeah all those people down south would never hire a black head coach, especially in the SEC. Wait...who was the coach at Mississippi State of ALL places in this country until just recently? Shazam, it was Sylveser Crooms, ALABAMA alumni. Why did he leave Mississippi State ? Golly Andy, he was a loser, 21-38. He resigned before they fired him. How come he isn't coaching at some "colorblind" northern institution now ? Because them people up north like to win too. As for Auburn hiring Chizik, this "good old boy" loves it. I don't like Auburn and if he follows through with his Iowa State record I'll be delighted.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

John D'Ambrosio — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:50:42 GMT

Matt Millen on TV as a football analyst? What a joke. This guy was the worst president/general manager in history. For at least 6 to 7 years he stole money from Detroit and now you guys are paying him to be a football analyst. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I can not believe that he would even call you for a job or did you call him? Either way he is not worth the money. Happy New Year you morons.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Tony Lewisville NC — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:57:53 GMT

First we did not elect a black president, we elected a BI RACIAL president. Second you have to look at the big picture. It does not matter how good a coach you are if you can't get the players to come play for you. Chizik has a history there is appears to be on the surface the better fit for the school.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

pete boyer Mpls Mn — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:51:17 GMT

Hey Kent. Get your head out of the sand and smell the coffee. There is enough statistical evidence that show the discrepancey in hiring people of colour as head coach to make your statement sound dumb.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Fred Hunker — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:01:44 GMT

You have had 183 comments and have published a selective small number (selected by you). The number of comments dwarfs the response to you other editorials. Why no more focus here? Your not biased are you?

BTW You didn't publish my earlier email defending Auburn's process and selection.

Fred

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

AL — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:16:55 GMT

Barkley is an idiot and blowhard. But he may be right in his conclusions, but not the way he thought. Twice I have heard that the concern was Turner Gill being married to a white woman. Still a silly reason not to hire a qualified coach. Personally, I think the bigger issue may have been the ability to recruit players. However, it's foolish to believe we live in a color-blind society.

Auburn's not color-blind when hiring coaches

Michael Jackson, Montgomery AL — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:02:36 GMT

I would agree with what everyone is saying if Auburn was looking for another defensive coordinator. Auburn needed/needs a coach. If you make the Buffalo coach white there is no one in their right mind that could say with a straight face and a clear conscience that he wouldn't have been picked. Let's face it, blacks have to work a little harder and in some cases alot harder to to recieve the same recognition as their white counterparts. I am a man of logic and there is no logical explanation for this. Numbers don't lie... People do. Production is/should always the underlying factor in hiring for these type positions. If you don't understand why people are playing the race card??? Write down all of Coach Gil's and Chizik's accomplishments as ***(((COACHES)))**** and show them to random people. I guarantee 10 out of 10 times that random person will pick Coach Gil. Imagine if it were you and you were trying to provide a better life for your family and this guy gets picked over you. Wouldn't you be outraged??? Put yourself in his shoes. Would you say "yeah he was a good defensive coordinator and he was already with Auburn" YEAH RIGHT!!!